[quote]Fitnessdiva wrote:
Hopefully the next election will be a course correction.[/quote]
I heard that line in the winter 2006.
[quote]Fitnessdiva wrote:
It has always been this way throughout history. Hopefully the next election will be a course correction.[/quote]
While I would agree with a change in stragedy, I think you need to brush up on history a little.
[quote]Fitnessdiva wrote:
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Nobody can make other people live a certain way, whether democratic, communist, Islamic sharia law, or any other way. …[/quote]
Huh? This happens all the time.
That doesn’t make it right.
[quote]Fitnessdiva wrote:
Let’s just invade any country that has any weapons they might use against us. we can never be sure they won’t use them.[/quote]
Damn girl you are hardcore. I thought Lady Thatcher had some cajones. You have her beat.
[quote]Fitnessdiva wrote:
That doesn’t make it right.[/quote]
So, let’s say our country is threatened by another with different views or a different form of government. Should we fight back because we believe our belief system is correct, or sit complacent and have our belief system changed?
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Fitnessdiva wrote:
That doesn’t make it right.
So, let’s say our country is threatened by another with different views or a different form of government. Should we fight back because we believe our belief system is correct, or sit complacent and have our belief system changed?[/quote]
I could use this to apply to the common Iraqi fighting for his country and what he believes to be right.
You can’t force political or social change on people and expect them to embrace it. It’s never worked and it never will.
Dustin
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
So, let’s say our country is threatened by another with different views or a different form of government. [/quote]
Was Nicaragua a “threat” to the sovereignty of the US? Was 2003 Iraq a “threat” to you?
"You’re not to be so blind with patriotism that you can’t face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it."
– Malcolm X
Oh god not more WMDs…I want bush to find the first ones he said were there (even providing fake photos and drawings of mobile chemical labs) and then maybe I’ll take a look at these new ones.
[quote]Dustin wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
Fitnessdiva wrote:
That doesn’t make it right.
So, let’s say our country is threatened by another with different views or a different form of government. Should we fight back because we believe our belief system is correct, or sit complacent and have our belief system changed?
I could use this to apply to the common Iraqi fighting for his country and what he believes to be right.
Dustin[/quote]
Exactly. But I believe that we have the right to do this as well.
Terrorists with what amounts to an alien philosophy in regards to western ideology attacked our country on several occasions. Now, what do you say, do we bow to this threat or do we end it?
[quote]lixy wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
So, let’s say our country is threatened by another with different views or a different form of government.
Was Nicaragua a “threat” to the sovereignty of the US? Was 2003 Iraq a “threat” to you?
"You’re not to be so blind with patriotism that you can’t face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it."
– Malcolm X[/quote]
You are looking at a small picture and not seeing the bigger one. Nicaragua may not have been a threat to the sovereignty of the US per se, but because of the Monroe Doctrine, and because of the bigger threat of the most powerful military empire this world has ever seen, it was a threat to us. We did what we had to do to defeat this threat, right or wrong.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Yes, actually. The Sandinistas’ goals included the export of their ideology / revolution to other countries in the hemisphere.[/quote]
So, violence is OK to counter ideologies now? Tell me, what country is mostly exporting its ideology to other countries in the world (often at gunpoint)?
[quote]lixy wrote:
Chushin wrote:
Yes, actually. The Sandinistas’ goals included the export of their ideology / revolution to other countries in the hemisphere.
So, violence is OK to counter ideologies now? Tell me, what country is mostly exporting its ideology to other countries in the world (often at gunpoint)?[/quote]
Did you miss the REVOLUTION part?
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
You are looking at a small picture and not seeing the bigger one. Nicaragua may not have been a threat to the sovereignty of the US per se, but because of the Monroe Doctrine, and because of the bigger threat of the most powerful military empire this world has ever seen, it was a threat to us. We did what we had to do to defeat this threat, right or wrong. [/quote]
The “right or wrong” part of your statement is quite interesting.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
USA + Largest Military on Planet + Stupid warmongering neocons in power == Perpetual Warfare
Who will you blame when Bush and his crew are out of office?[/quote]
The MIC.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Chushin wrote:
Yes, actually. The Sandinistas’ goals included the export of their ideology / revolution to other countries in the hemisphere.
So, violence is OK to counter ideologies now? Tell me, what country is mostly exporting its ideology to other countries in the world (often at gunpoint)?[/quote]
The muslim terrorists.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
You are looking at a small picture and not seeing the bigger one. Nicaragua may not have been a threat to the sovereignty of the US per se, but because of the Monroe Doctrine, and because of the bigger threat of the most powerful military empire this world has ever seen, it was a threat to us. We did what we had to do to defeat this threat, right or wrong.
The “right or wrong” part of your statement is quite interesting.[/quote]
At least I stand for what I believe in. I suppose you would have rather lived in a world dominated by a Stalinist dictatorship…Oh yeah, that’s what Saddam was. Well, that is interesting as well.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Chushin wrote:
Yes, actually. The Sandinistas’ goals included the export of their ideology / revolution to other countries in the hemisphere.
So, violence is OK to counter ideologies now? Tell me, what country is mostly exporting its ideology to other countries in the world (often at gunpoint)?
The muslim terrorists.
[/quote]
Muslim terrorists is a country?