[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Zeppelin795 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
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As Zap is pointing out, the power is there. It is simply that America is NOT like Nazi Germany, using that power to crush others. There’s a whole laundry list of rogue nations that are very lucky that we DON’T want to exercise that power.
Imagine if we drafted, say, 10 million men and went hammer-and-tongs to wipe all this shit out. Game over.
On the contrary, the U.S. has invaded and fought more wars by proxy than Hitler ever had.
By the way, why DON’T we want to exercise power over other rogue nations, ones that are far more dangerous than Iraq was during our recent invasion?
Ummm…Hitler was in power for only 12+ years. His country was devastated by losing WWI and in the midst of the Great Depression. Soon as he was able, war. You’re statement comparing how many wars we’ve had is non- sequitor.
We don’t attack nations unless they are a clear risk to us. Saddam was rebuilding and endangering our oil supply. So, he was first. Iran is next, followed by North Korea. Iran is next because they, quite foolishly, are doing exactly what Saddam did — threaten our oil supply. We’ll probably leave NK alone, since they don’t threaten us, and China feels somehow that they must protect NK.
I’m always amazed how libs ASSUME that the same relative peace and order would continue, w/o the vast power of the United States enforcing that order. Do you guys realize how quickly the world would degenerate into roving bands of thugs and murderers w/o the USA? The world would quickly turn into Zimbabwe, with every little tribe more than happy to burn the crops, blow up the mines, topple buildings, rape your wife and murder your children (while making you watch). Is this what you want, when you advocate the US be ‘diplomatic’ and withdraw from trying to police this shitpit world?
Fucking and just plain stupid!!
H2
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Your point about Hitler and length of time is duly noted. I just didn’t make my point in a useful manner with that example.
However, your statement that we don’t attack unless provoked is absolutely false. There is no credible evidence that Saddam was rebuilding. It was nothing but smoke in mirrors from W, Rumsfeld and Powell. His ability to attack us was almost - if not impossible - non-existent. His nieghbors weren’t even afraid of him. His capabilities were 1/10 of what they were prior to the first Gulf War. And the severe sanctions put on Iraq - mostly led by the U.S.- helped to starve hundereds of thousands of innocent Iraqi’s. They were weaklings in the region so to suggest that there was actually a real threat to us is laughable and no one believes it outside this country.
And how is oil in a foreign country’s land ours? Can China claim that the coal supplies in the U.S. are theirs?
Of course Iran could be considered more of a threat as they were not devestated by the first Gulf War or sanctions. But so what? NK is a bigger threat as they have threatened nuclear strikes against us. So what do we do? Invade every nation who doesn’t agree or bow down to us? Iraq was easy as they couldn’t defend themselves and they have so much oil. NK and other nations are better eqipped to defend themselves and inflict harm to our nation so they don’t seem to be targeted for invasion. Plus NK doesn’t have many if any oil reserves.
The U.S. is to a great deal the very cause of unrest. This country has a long history of destabilizing other nations in order to put in puppet regimes and make it friendly for U.S. corporate takeovers and repression of indegious populations. Of course you won’t hear this from the very corporate mass media whose parent companies derives power and profit from such endevors. Just a function of unbridled capitalistic greed at work.
The best thing anyone can do in this country is to subvert mass media propaganda. Go to non-corporate and foreign news sources for a truly alternative look at what is going on in our name. It is shocking to say the least.