Intimidation

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[quote]vegeta4u wrote:
to the poster that walks around sizing ppl up for a fight 24/7 nice man…

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I certainly understand where this is coming from, because I see guys doing it all the time. However, it’s honestly not a part of who I am. I don’t purposely intimidate people unless I’m forced into a situation where I have to defend myself. To me, attempting to intimidate is just a sign of insecurity.

Do you people really believe that a guy weighing 170 lbs. is treated the same as the guy weighing 230 (which I agree, isn’t that big)?

I find it hard to believe that Professor X is the only one understands what I’m saying here.

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this thread is kind of funny if not quite comical…heres my random rant

i have to say tho, after years of training, my perception of big has completely changed.

anything under 230 is nowhere near big…

this is absolutely from training with strongmen, powerlifters, and olymic-style weighlifters. i dont interact well with bodybuilders and pretty much hate the sport, that may offend some of you and im sorry but i just think its a feminine sport…

now that i have said that, i have to say that though some individuals are big and appear very intimidating this does not actually mean they can actually fight. i know guys who weigh 340 and suck at any type of combat sport. its just a whole different ball-game, where athleticism and other factors just play a huge role…i think mental makeup is probably the biggest factor

obviously fighting is easier when your bigger, faster, stronger, its just that thats not the only thing.

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[quote]orion wrote:
A 2-3 year old girl once immediately surrendered all her toys to me when she saw me.

A 4 year old boy would not stand in line behind me, because I “was just too big”.

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Hahahahahahahah!!! That’s hilarious! All kidding aside, this issue is even worse for females. Back in high school and college, I played field hockey. Nobody wanted to date a 5’9" "lesbian-jock-she-male-scary-drink you under the table bitch!! (Not my words- I am none of these except for maybe the drink you under the table part!) Although I had many male friends, they all preferred smaller, more delicate women. I was told that no one wants to fuck a girl taller and stronger then they are. Is this intimidation or just insecurity on their part?

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[quote]carter12 wrote:

I don’t purposely intimidate people unless I’m forced into a situation where I have to defend myself. To me, attempting to intimidate is just a sign of insecurity.[/quote]

A question - are you really sure you are intimidating? I am asking seriously.

I mean, by the standards we are talking about here, every commercial gym is packed with intimidating figures - which I don’t think is true.

I also have a rule of thumb - if someone announces they are (cool, powerful, intimidating, smart, insert shameless self-aggrandizing compliment here), they probably aren’t in reality, but desparately want to be.

I am not suggesting size is irrelevant - I don’t believe that. But it’s incomplete - most ruin whatever ‘intimidation factor’ they thought they had as soon as they open their mouths.

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It’s been my experience that people treat you with more deference when you’re 5’11" 215lbs+ than when you’re 165lbs at the same height. I don’t know that I would call it “intimidation” so much as “respect.”

JMB

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[quote]JMB wrote:
It’s been my experience that people treat you with more deference when you’re 5’11" 215lbs+ than when you’re 165lbs at the same height. I don’t know that I would call it “intimidation” so much as “respect.”

JMB[/quote]

It seems like quite a few do understand this.

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[quote]sasquatch wrote:

Of course I didn’t directly mean you were a dickhead. It was meant to convey/reinforce/visualize my opinion that your attitude supercedes your size wrt the intimidation factor. Some facial expressions are part of your personality and this can have a menacing factor. [/quote]

This is absolutely true. I’m pretty serious most of the time. My expression conveys I guess.

I’ve had people tell me that I look like an asshole, or that I look menacing, or that I look like someone who starts problems (possibly attributed to the fact that I only shave once a week, and always have a five o clock shadow going). I’m really not, but at 5’6 most people just figure you have the Napolean complex and they “understand” it. But unlike alot of other people in the world, I don’t smile unless I’m actually happy.

If this equates one to being an asshole…whatever.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
My guess is you’re a dickhead.

My guess is you want to intimidate, or at least feel like you’re intimidating.

Are we all now supposed to think you are some big tough guy. I don’t get your post at all. People just don’t shrink up and get all intimidated just because someone is a little bigger than them. It’s the vibe you give. It isn’t about some fake smile. That would just be retarded.

I’m 6’4–275. Yah, sometimes you get a look, but that is rare. And it rarely persists because I’m not a dickhead. I may play one on the internet, but I enjoy my friends and socializing and I think it comes across that I’m not there to hurt anyone. I’m not out there ‘looking’ to be the biggest baddest boy in the bar. I also spend very little time staring at strangers trying to figure out if they are intimidated.

Just thinking out loud.

What do you do for a living? Anyone working a job that involves public relations will no doubt run into this from time to time. I am wondering why this is so hard for you to believe or understand. When was the last time your doctor, car saleman, or vendor was bigger than you?[/quote]

Hey, a big ass proctologist with rubber gloves on wanting you to brokeback (bend over) is freakin scary!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
My guess is you’re a dickhead.

My guess is you want to intimidate, or at least feel like you’re intimidating.

Are we all now supposed to think you are some big tough guy. I don’t get your post at all. People just don’t shrink up and get all intimidated just because someone is a little bigger than them. It’s the vibe you give. It isn’t about some fake smile. That would just be retarded.

I’m 6’4–275. Yah, sometimes you get a look, but that is rare. And it rarely persists because I’m not a dickhead. I may play one on the internet, but I enjoy my friends and socializing and I think it comes across that I’m not there to hurt anyone. I’m not out there ‘looking’ to be the biggest baddest boy in the bar. I also spend very little time staring at strangers trying to figure out if they are intimidated.

Just thinking out loud.

What do you do for a living? Anyone working a job that involves public relations will no doubt run into this from time to time. I am wondering why this is so hard for you to believe or understand. When was the last time your doctor, car saleman, or vendor was bigger than you?[/quote]

Everyone is bigger than me.

And I work in public relations!

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[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
I was told that no one wants to fuck a girl taller and stronger then they are. Is this intimidation or just insecurity on their part?[/quote]

If the female is of larger size, I do indeed fear that after copulation, she may decapitate me with her fangs and lay eggs in my corpse. Kidding aside…

Sorry, but if I’m not taller, I’d have to at least be more massive. It probably is a factor of intimidation, as you mentioned, but all my instinct knows is that I’m really only attracted to girls who are physically smaller. No matter how beautiful the larger woman may be, even in my own opinion, there’s just no action in my trousers.

BTW, I’m only 5’7", so this does suck and limit my options significantly. Just nothing to be done to fix this situation, except to bulk! :slight_smile:

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[quote]Nate Dogg wrote:

Everyone is bigger than me.

And I work in public relations!

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Actually, most of us are afraid of midgets so you’re safe.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I have very often had my assistant come and get me stating something to the effect of, “This next patient seems to have a really bad attitude because he had to wait 5 minutes past his scheduled time in the waiting room”. Meanwhile, I can walk in the room and there is suddenly no problem. [/quote]

Although I don’t discount that size plays a role in how people react to you in much the same way but possibly opposite way people react to beautiful women I have to think that much of people’s reaction as you posted above is that your the doctor.

I have on multiple occasions had a gun pointed at me, both by an armed robber and by a police officer (mistaken identity) and I can honestly say I was more intimidated by the 5’6" 130 lb doctor holding the clipboard to tell me the result of my infant son’s lab tests.

Unless you have already given them very bad news, I don’t imagine people are rude or disrespectful to someone who could now or in the future hold their life or someone they love life in their hands.

Just an observation.

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[quote]orion wrote:
a little bit scary and intimidating = sexy
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FOR SURE

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I’m not huge at 5’ 9", 210 lbs. However I carry low body fat usually around 10% or less which makes me look bigger and more muscular, more defined and very vascular. I catch people staring at me when they don’t think I’m paying attention. On the occasions that I do make eye contact with someone checking me out, I’ll smile and say hello and most respond in kind. I’ve had people ask me if I were a professional wrestler and even had a little boy once ask me if I was Batman which I laughed so hard I nearly pissed my pants. I don’t know if that’s “intimidating”.

I do know I rarely have people give me a hard time in person. I also notice when I’m around other guys with a descent build we tend to check each other out, smile and nod. Sometimes we engage in conversations about where we train and or how we train, etc. I’ve made quite a few friends that way. I actually like the whole experience and its part of what motivates me to bust my ass in the gym everyday.

AssBuster

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[quote]nbutka wrote:
now that i have said that, i have to say that though some individuals are big and appear very intimidating this does not actually mean they can actually fight.
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Oh shit, please, not again.

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
A question - are you really sure you are intimidating? I am asking seriously.

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As far as someone running away scared when I walk in the room, then no, I’m not intimidating.

But if you mean having most people perceiving me as a dickhead before they actually know me, then yes I’m intimidating.

I actually brought this up because I had a friend tell me somethin along the lines of “no matter how big you get, you’ll never intimidate me”. Which just made me think about the subject a little more.

It’s funny how everyone on this thread seems to want to tap into my subconscious mind though.

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[quote]carter12 wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:

I actually brought this up because I had a friend tell me somethin along the lines of “no matter how big you get, you’ll never intimidate me”. Which just made me think about the subject a little more.

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if your friend just tells you that, you might think that he is starting to get at least a little envious

and LMAO at a kid asking someone if they are BATMAN

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[quote]nbutka wrote:
this thread is kind of funny if not quite comical…heres my random rant

i have to say tho, after years of training, my perception of big has completely changed.

anything under 230 is nowhere near big…

this is absolutely from training with strongmen, powerlifters, and olymic-style weighlifters. i dont interact well with bodybuilders and pretty much hate the sport, that may offend some of you and im sorry but i just think its a feminine sport…

now that i have said that, i have to say that though some individuals are big and appear very intimidating this does not actually mean they can actually fight. i know guys who weigh 340 and suck at any type of combat sport. its just a whole different ball-game, where athleticism and other factors just play a huge role…i think mental makeup is probably the biggest factor

obviously fighting is easier when your bigger, faster, stronger, its just that thats not the only thing.

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Why is it that every time somebody has to let us know that big guys aren’t always good fighters.
Or you better watch those little guys with the mean killer shark eyes.
How about Bruce Lee? Nobody has mentioned him yet. Was he an intimidating guy?
Chuck Norris?

Hmmm. If there was a big guy who fights kinda not bad and you put him up against a little guy who’s a pretty good fighter and if the rules were that you had to fight hopping on your left leg with your right arm tied behind your back.
Who would win?

What about a real skinny guy who weighs only 100 pounds but is a master of the flying snake fist technique and you put him up against a really huge guy with big disfunctional muscles who knows absolutely only the basics of boxing…
Who would win?

Or what about a real fat guy who can hardly walk against an anorexic who can barely lift a phonebook?

I personally would like to see a tall guy with small biceps but big shoulders go up against a shorter guy with big biceps and huge calfs.

Now there is something to think about.

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[quote]carter12 wrote:

I actually brought this up because I had a friend tell me somethin along the lines of “no matter how big you get, you’ll never intimidate me”. Which just made me think about the subject a little more.

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Yeah, this falls back on the whole “knowing a guy” thing.
I actually enjoy talking to bouncers at clubs, since I’ve been one myself, and I know how much fun some of these guys are. They go through the weirdest shit and are otherwise bored out of their minds.
Yet people are scared like hell.
It’s pretty much all body language, physical appearance and status though.
That last one is actually the most powerful though.

Guys at my gym who are by very few standards considered “big”(mostly olympic lifters who have won some mayor titles)are deeply respected and other, much bigger and/or taller guys just step out of the way and practically bow down for them.
In the outside world, this works the same. Our appearance and body language has such an impact, people can’t help but draw conclusions, based on whatever. Movies, I guess.
Most big guys I know are either very friendly, or very insecure.

I’m always friendly, but I walk like a millionaire, and have a smile on my face when I interact.
People respect that and are friendly in return.
I wonder where they get the conclusion that big guys are dicks though.

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[quote]assbuster wrote:
I also notice when I’m around other guys with a descent build we tend to check each other out, smile and nod.

AssBuster[/quote]

I’ve noticed that too. It’s like Alpha Male stuff. I rarely dress the way my muscles show or something like that. Not any more anyways.:slight_smile: God bless winter.