Also, According “The Innocence Project”
Say what you will, but nearly 300 people in jail that shouldn’t have been who spent over a decade a piece losing their life points to some serious issues.
I mean…they are just numbers…until it’s you.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, According “The Innocence Project”
Say what you will, but nearly 300 people in jail that shouldn’t have been who spent over a decade a piece losing their life points to some serious issues.
I mean…they are just numbers…until it’s you.[/quote]
PX, you see this yet?
http://www.theagitator.com/2012/04/04/qualified-immunity-strikes-again/
somewhat related.
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, According “The Innocence Project”
Say what you will, but nearly 300 people in jail that shouldn’t have been who spent over a decade a piece losing their life points to some serious issues.
I mean…they are just numbers…until it’s you.[/quote]
PX, you see this yet?
http://www.theagitator.com/2012/04/04/qualified-immunity-strikes-again/
[/quote]
Damn.
Moral of story: “…Don’t be black in Bellaire, Texas”.
[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:
somewhat related.[/quote]
Those were excellent, HB!
Thats a scary thought. All a kid has to do is say “he raped me” and your going to jail? What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty. The say so of a kid, isn’t evidence. its her word against his. Don’t you need evidence to back up her statement? Don’t they do a rape kit on “alleged rape victims”
The good thing about this is, any future accusations on men accused of doing this sorta thing, this can be brought up as how kids do lie. Its very powerful evidence in my opinion. This proves that kids will lie, even if it means their father will go to jail. This will prove that kids can be vindictive and cruel. This case will now be used in any future sex abuse case involving kids or children of parents accused of this crime. How a man spent 9 years in prison, cause his daughter lied. Thats powerful evidence about how kids can and will lie.
[quote]andy1977 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
How did this guy get convicted in the first place? Who the fuck was his lawyer[/quote]
A public defender was his lawyer. Sadly, I’m not sure it matters who the lawyer is when charged with a crime against a minor or a child.[/quote]
Not anymore. lol. This case is going to be used as powerful ammo against any child accusing a man of rape. Especially if theres very little evidence. This case proves that kids lie, kids make stuff up. This will convince any juror, that think “how could a child make something like that up” well, this case proves that kids do make stuff up, even this bad.
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
[quote]andy1977 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
How did this guy get convicted in the first place? Who the fuck was his lawyer[/quote]
A public defender was his lawyer. Sadly, I’m not sure it matters who the lawyer is when charged with a crime against a minor or a child.[/quote]
His lawyer fought like hell for him, but when a kid tells a story, juries eat it up, no mind the truth.
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This might not be polically correct to say, but luckily, we have this case now. This case proves that cute little girls like their asses off. This trial can be brought up in any future trial. It has direct impact of any future accusation, cause it goes to prove that kids lie. So no judge would never not allow a lawyer from bringing this up to defend his client. past trials can always be brought up if it has to do with your defense.
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
[quote]andy1977 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
How did this guy get convicted in the first place? Who the fuck was his lawyer[/quote]
A public defender was his lawyer. Sadly, I’m not sure it matters who the lawyer is when charged with a crime against a minor or a child.[/quote]
His lawyer fought like hell for him, but when a kid tells a story, juries eat it up, no mind the truth.
[/quote]
This might not be polically correct to say, but luckily, we have this case now. This case proves that cute little girls like their asses off. This trial can be brought up in any future trial. It has direct impact of any future accusation, cause it goes to prove that kids lie. So no judge would never not allow a lawyer from bringing this up to defend his client. past trials can always be brought up if it has to do with your defense.[/quote]
To add to your point, any future court cases where someone is accused in similar circumstances, they’ll be able to bring up this case to help with their defence.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I have to agree. This shouldn’t even shock anyone here. The media will always side with the child or the woman first in an abuse story…almost no matter what. Call it white knight syndrome or whatever, but that is how a whole jury can convict a man “just in case”.
What we need to crack down on are false accusations and the destruction of entire lives just because of the accusation alone. It almost doesn’t matter if you raped someone or not once someone accuses you of it. Your name is still shit.[/quote]
This is true . The more outrageous the claims, the more people eat it up. My family dealt with a much watered down version of this. I’d say a G rated version. Nothing legal came out of it, but women have been lying forever.
A false accusation of rape should get you a similar jail sentence as a rape conviction if you are found guilty of it.
So if this guy now goes and rapes his daughter for realsies, would he get eleven years knocked off his sentence?
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
So if this guy now goes and rapes his daughter for realsies, would he get eleven years knocked off his sentence? [/quote]
No, it means that he can no longer be tried for the rape that occurred eleven years ago. If he raped her now, it would be a separate crime and the time he served for the other crime would not count at all in his sentencing.
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
So if this guy now goes and rapes his daughter for realsies, would he get eleven years knocked off his sentence? [/quote]
No, it means that he can no longer be tried for the rape that occurred eleven years ago. If he raped her now, it would be a separate crime and the time he served for the other crime would not count at all in his sentencing. [/quote]
Yeah, but who would believe her now?
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
How did this guy get convicted in the first place? Who the fuck was his lawyer[/quote]
…so, they locked a grown man in jail based on the word of a child…based on what evidence?[/quote]
EXACTLY how did a jury of his peers and the prosecution convict this guy with enough evidence that he went to jail for this long? It just makes no fucking sense.[/quote]
The bitch probably fake cried or something.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
So if this guy now goes and rapes his daughter for realsies, would he get eleven years knocked off his sentence? [/quote]
No, it means that he can no longer be tried for the rape that occurred eleven years ago. If he raped her now, it would be a separate crime and the time he served for the other crime would not count at all in his sentencing. [/quote]
Yeah, but who would believe her now?[/quote]
No one would. That is why kids usually hear some version of the boy who cried wolf, to teach them that if they lie they will be murdered by a wolf while no one cares.
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
So if this guy now goes and rapes his daughter for realsies, would he get eleven years knocked off his sentence? [/quote]
No, it means that he can no longer be tried for the rape that occurred eleven years ago. If he raped her now, it would be a separate crime and the time he served for the other crime would not count at all in his sentencing. [/quote]
Yeah, but who would believe her now?[/quote]
No one would. That is why kids usually hear some version of the boy who cried wolf, to teach them that if they lie they will be murdered by a wolf while no one cares.
[/quote]
I think y’all’s versions of nursery rhymes are different from the All-happy-endings of the US
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
So if this guy now goes and rapes his daughter for realsies, would he get eleven years knocked off his sentence? [/quote]
No, it means that he can no longer be tried for the rape that occurred eleven years ago. If he raped her now, it would be a separate crime and the time he served for the other crime would not count at all in his sentencing. [/quote]
Yeah, but who would believe her now?[/quote]
No one would. That is why kids usually hear some version of the boy who cried wolf, to teach them that if they lie they will be murdered by a wolf while no one cares.
[/quote]
I think y’all’s versions of nursery rhymes are different from the All-happy-endings of the US[/quote]
Yeah, our fairy tales are kind of messed up compared to American ones, but they do get the point across.
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
So if this guy now goes and rapes his daughter for realsies, would he get eleven years knocked off his sentence? [/quote]
No, it means that he can no longer be tried for the rape that occurred eleven years ago. If he raped her now, it would be a separate crime and the time he served for the other crime would not count at all in his sentencing. [/quote]
Yeah, but who would believe her now?[/quote]
No one would. That is why kids usually hear some version of the boy who cried wolf, to teach them that if they lie they will be murdered by a wolf while no one cares.
[/quote]
I think y’all’s versions of nursery rhymes are different from the All-happy-endings of the US[/quote]
Yeah, our fairy tales are kind of messed up compared to American ones, but they do get the point across.
[/quote]
… wait, how does the American version of that story end?
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
So if this guy now goes and rapes his daughter for realsies, would he get eleven years knocked off his sentence? [/quote]
No, it means that he can no longer be tried for the rape that occurred eleven years ago. If he raped her now, it would be a separate crime and the time he served for the other crime would not count at all in his sentencing. [/quote]
Yeah, but who would believe her now?[/quote]
No one would. That is why kids usually hear some version of the boy who cried wolf, to teach them that if they lie they will be murdered by a wolf while no one cares.
[/quote]
I think y’all’s versions of nursery rhymes are different from the All-happy-endings of the US[/quote]
Yeah, our fairy tales are kind of messed up compared to American ones, but they do get the point across.
[/quote]
… wait, how does the American version of that story end?[/quote]
Most older fairy tails end horribly. If you actually go and read the originals, like the Grimm Brothers, they are often violent and graphic. For example in snow white, in the end they put the evil queen in red hot iron shoes and make her dance until she dies. What we generally have here is Disney-fide versions of the stories.
But I remember the boy getting eaten in the end of that one too.