I know you recommend lifting from a deadstop for hypertrophy, but could you use this method to improve an athlete’s power output? Or is utilisation of the stretch shortening cycle crucial in this case?
Thanks
[quote]Will07 wrote:
I know you recommend lifting from a deadstop for hypertrophy, but could you use this method to improve an athlete’s power output? Or is utilisation of the stretch shortening cycle crucial in this case?
Thanks[/quote]
It is a good way to increase power in an athlete who is already super efficient at utilizing the stretch reflex but who lack in muscle starting strength.
Strength, power size … it’s all about finding the weak link and fixing it.
Deadstart exercises are also very effective for athletes where a deadstart is common (e.g. sprinters, football linemen, etc.)
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Will07 wrote:
I know you recommend lifting from a deadstop for hypertrophy, but could you use this method to improve an athlete’s power output? Or is utilisation of the stretch shortening cycle crucial in this case?
Thanks
It is a good way to increase power in an athlete who is already super efficient at utilizing the stretch reflex but who lack in muscle starting strength.
Strength, power size … it’s all about finding the weak link and fixing it.
Deadstart exercises are also very effective for athletes where a deadstart is common (e.g. sprinters, football linemen, etc.)[/quote]
Would a box squat be a good exercise for a lineman then?
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Will07 wrote:
I know you recommend lifting from a deadstop for hypertrophy, but could you use this method to improve an athlete’s power output? Or is utilisation of the stretch shortening cycle crucial in this case?
Thanks
It is a good way to increase power in an athlete who is already super efficient at utilizing the stretch reflex but who lack in muscle starting strength.
Strength, power size … it’s all about finding the weak link and fixing it.
Deadstart exercises are also very effective for athletes where a deadstart is common (e.g. sprinters, football linemen, etc.)
Would a box squat be a good exercise for a lineman then?[/quote]
Yes
and sprinter i assume?
[quote]Mouldsie wrote:
and sprinter i assume?[/quote]
Correct
I consider dead stop training the single most important factor in developing greater power and helping with my turn around in most lifts. Since using them on bench, squats (where I stop and pause on a box for a count of two before exploding up), close grip, BB curls, and any twisting move with medicine balls my PRs and size have increased quicker than any other time that I can remember. It has also increased my ability to explode through a softball.
My question is how often should these techniques be used? I basically use them in a six week cycle for one main lift per body part. Drop them than restart when my lifts stall.
Coach Thib what the heck do you even know about dead stop training? You’re just a big bodybuilder who takes WAY too much vitamin D! P.S.- your not even big!
[quote]ryoshi wrote:
Coach Thib what the heck do you even know about dead stop training? You’re just a big bodybuilder who takes WAY too much vitamin D! P.S.- your not even big! [/quote]
Sure thing. Except for the fact that I was a:
Football player for 8 years
Olympic lifter for 6 years
And I trained:
Athletes from 26 different sports, including pro hockey and football players and olympic athletes, including a sprinter
Although I have worked with bodybuilders and have tried this activity myself, I am first and foremost a strength coach with an athletic background.
[quote]3hitter wrote:
I consider dead stop training the single most important factor in developing greater power and helping with my turn around in most lifts. Since using them on bench, squats (where I stop and pause on a box for a count of two before exploding up), close grip, BB curls, and any twisting move with medicine balls my PRs and size have increased quicker than any other time that I can remember. It has also increased my ability to explode through a softball.
My question is how often should these techniques be used? I basically use them in a six week cycle for one main lift per body part. Drop them than restart when my lifts stall.[/quote]
They are powerful, but keep in mind that the most powerful methods are often the most stressful ones to.
It is wise to cycle the use of deadstart exercises; I normally recommend 3-5 weeks cycles with at least 6 weeks between cycles.
I think ryoshi was being ironic CT ^^
[quote]kinghandle wrote:
I think ryoshi was being ironic CT ^[1]
Could be… I’m really edgy right now. Hopefully I didn’t come out as an ass.
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[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
kinghandle wrote:
I think ryoshi was being ironic CT ^^
Could be… I’m really edgy right now. Hopefully I didn’t come out as an ass.[/quote]
Must be that vitamin D.
[quote]WP wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
kinghandle wrote:
I think ryoshi was being ironic CT ^^
Could be… I’m really edgy right now. Hopefully I didn’t come out as an ass.
Must be that vitamin D.
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Yes, as the article says “D is for doping”… hope I didn’t get “vitamin rage”
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
3hitter wrote:
I consider dead stop training the single most important factor in developing greater power and helping with my turn around in most lifts. Since using them on bench, squats (where I stop and pause on a box for a count of two before exploding up), close grip, BB curls, and any twisting move with medicine balls my PRs and size have increased quicker than any other time that I can remember. It has also increased my ability to explode through a softball.
My question is how often should these techniques be used? I basically use them in a six week cycle for one main lift per body part. Drop them than restart when my lifts stall.
They are powerful, but keep in mind that the most powerful methods are often the most stressful ones to.
It is wise to cycle the use of deadstart exercises; I normally recommend 3-5 weeks cycles with at least 6 weeks between cycles.[/quote]
Thanks for the reply.
Okay this is gonna come off douchebagish i can feel, but how much does deadlifting effect waist/oblique size.
because i’m trying to minimize my waist as much as possible to enhance my V taper. i felt like DLs were only hurting this.
[quote]klarbar wrote:
Okay this is gonna come off douchebagish i can feel, but how much does deadlifting effect waist/oblique size.
because i’m trying to minimize my waist as much as possible to enhance my V taper. i felt like DLs were only hurting this. [/quote]
I am wondering this too. I have always deadlifted consistently for as long as I’ve trained, and my obliques are oversized.
Oh you didn’t come off as an ass, I was trying to be a duoche, and it worked, although i did mean it ironically. But yeah its all cool, I’ve been taking 30,000 IUs of Vitamin D so I understand… jk I’m only taking like 6,000.
But uh, I have a quesion: I am trying to get to a 405 deadlift with comfortability, so I guess like a 3 rep max with 405, and I am at about 285 right now with a 3 rep double overhand grip deadlift. Isn’t Deadlifting just dead stop training and a great way to increase power? Especially FOR the Deadlift, but with transferrance to all other lifts too since it works your whole body?
How does Deadstop training compare to the idea of TUT with deadlifts specifically?