I see a lot of people listing test cyp specifically, but not test e so much. Is this just from personal experience with just one compound, or is there merit for cyp that I haven’t found? I’ve used both and see no measurable difference.
I also didnt notice much if any difference between cyp or enathate. Im also a big fan of tren, however gyno symptoms arrive much faster even while using .5 mg of a dex per day. I have never experienced any type of sexual funtions with tren, but have with deca.
But if i were to only be able to pick one cyp or enathate would be my choice.
Gotta go with Test as well. I’ve run the combos and stacks, tried most every oral. In the end, its hard to beat Test as a stand alone as the question asks.
Deca is great but not alone.
Tren is even better but even worse alone
As for the daily inections its not so much of a pain. It something that you get over and used to. And really its never a pain in my ass as I cant reach it for self inections.
Some people claim that test is test after its in the body, however i do feel that my body seems to react differently to prop than enathate or cyp.
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
One of these days I’ll have to get my shit together and give a glute or somethin a stab or two of the real shit…test e or c…I would guess…
My understanding is that test e,c, don’t have to be stabbed near as much as the prop, but the prop seems to be not as bad with retention/gyno symptoms…is that an accurate statement?
I don’t see how you can do these daily injections…that seems like overload and a real “pain in the ass”…no pun intended…lol…
great thread and still going great.
best,
ToneBone[/quote]
Your understanding by and large is correct. Prop is best as an EOD. Enanthate and Cyp can be done effectively anywhere from E3D to once a week. Admittedly, once a week does lead to more blood level fluctuations, but it can be done. Shoot the HRT guys are hitting it every other week.
But that is a sin and a crime and another story. Twice a week if a very nice injection frequency for Cyp or Enan. Glutes are not the only injection point even if it is arguably best. Many rookies find the quad or shoulder easier to reach and aspirate.
[quote]sapasion wrote:
Shoot the HRT guys are hitting it every other week.
But that is a sin and a crime and another story. Twice a week if a very nice injection frequency for Cyp or Enan. [/quote]
When I first started HRT he doc was doing 200mg test cyp once per month. Needless to say after the second month I started doing it myself at home once per week.
I’ll also second the difference in test cyp/enan and test prop. The prop seems to be more potent, sort of. More like it kicks in faster and changes in blood levels occur at a faster rate if dosing is changed, so I guess it seems to be a bit more aggressive. Gains are pretty much the same, though I’ve only done prop for one cycle (I was walking like I had a peg leg, usually two of them).
[quote]Schwarzenegger wrote:
(I was walking like I had a peg leg, usually two of them).[/quote]
That’s why you got 2 shoulders 
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
As for the daily inections its not so much of a pain. It something that you get over and used to. And really its never a pain in my ass as I cant reach it for self inections.
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Not for me. I absolutely HATE injections. Every single one is traumatizing and awful. The ability to have sex 3-5 times a day and train harder makes it all worth it though.
As far as the original question, I would have to say Anavar is my fave, though as someone mentioned it’s pretty much all fake. I was just reading someone on another forum supposedly had some of IP’s tested and it was DBOL. Chumps lie about their competition all the time and you can’t trust what anyone says on these forums, but because of the cost of Anavar I tend to be wary about it. And unfortunately, it’s just too expensive to get the Italian stuff at the moment.
[quote]Diana Bolann wrote:
LillGuy001 wrote:
As for the daily inections its not so much of a pain. It something that you get over and used to. And really its never a pain in my ass as I cant reach it for self inections.
Not for me. I absolutely HATE injections. Every single one is traumatizing and awful. The ability to have sex 3-5 times a day and train harder makes it all worth it though.
As far as the original question, I would have to say Anavar is my fave, though as someone mentioned it’s pretty much all fake. I was just reading someone on another forum supposedly had some of IP’s tested and it was DBOL. Chumps lie about their competition all the time and you can’t trust what anyone says on these forums, but because of the cost of Anavar I tend to be wary about it. And unfortunately, it’s just too expensive to get the Italian stuff at the moment. [/quote]
I got 10g of Anavar a while back. Surprisingly it’s one of the few things I haven’t tried. Everyone says it kicks ass, but with all the talk of fakes it’s almost like i want to save it for something special, though I do have plenty of it.
Right now I’m about three weeks into this cycle:
Test E 800mg/wk
masteron E 400mg/wk
I’ve heard it isn’t worth it below like 75mg/day… any thoughts on how to throw it in the current cycle?
I feel it at 40mg ED, even as a standalone. It’s a good place to start, and it doesn’t make me feel nasty if I move up in dose either.
If you really want to feel it, wait until your hormone levels, exogenous or endogenous, are stable. When you add it in it should be really noticeable.
BTW, how do you weigh it? Do you have one of those coke scales or something? I’ve always wanted to get some powder and make up my own caps but I don’t have a really accurate scale.
[quote]Diana Bolann wrote:
I feel it at 40mg ED, even as a standalone. It’s a good place to start, and it doesn’t make me feel nasty if I move up in dose either.
If you really want to feel it, wait until your hormone levels, exogenous or endogenous, are stable. When you add it in it should be really noticeable.
BTW, how do you weigh it? Do you have one of those coke scales or something? I’ve always wanted to get some powder and make up my own caps but I don’t have a really accurate scale.[/quote]
I might try it at 50mg/day in another week and then move up to 100mg after a week just to see the difference. Yeah, I’ve got a digital scale accurate to .01g. It works pretty well, but you’d be better off with one accurate to .001g.
The only problem is the more accurate scales don’t measure as high, unless you pay a ton of money (they have a weight limit). Either way, your local head shop will have them for like $50.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Because of the China situation - there is vey little real anavar on the market. Most of it is fake.[/quote]
RJ: When you say fake, do you mean inert filler (placebo) or another compound (as was alluded to D Bol, or likely Winny being passed off as Var)?..Disturbing news BTW…
Test would be my choice. Grrrreat feeling at 500-600mg/wk. of cyp. Hated the prop, could never get used to it. Have to say the Mrs. looks forward to me being on too.
I like Anavar but for me it isn’t sustainable. Expensive and the cycles need to be short. I don’t find the gains lasting that long.
Really new here… But thought I would drop a message…
I have to say Test E is freaking great…Does it get any better?
If it can get better than this, then all I can say is WOW…
Just my 2 cents…
Have a great day…
Kuch
Test Prop. only if I could take it without the daily injections.
So I will settle with Test E.
JW