[quote]gonepostal wrote:
Isn’t there some famous red headed vikings?
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Sure, Erick the Red.
he was a plunerin, rapin, and murderin fool, too~
[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
[quote]Oleena wrote:
[quote]hipsr4runnin wrote:
I always wondered if it would come down to THe Road meets Walking dead. So there are zombies out eating people, but food runs low, really low, so does wild game, [/quote]
This isn’t necessarily true. The wild animals would out-last the humans by a long shot. Some of them might even join in the flesh fest.[/quote]
Which animals? Because last I checked… most wild animal populations are managed by us… and aren’t that big. lol[/quote]
Texas has a slight problem with feral hogs.
[quote]Edgy wrote:
[quote]gonepostal wrote:
Isn’t there some famous red headed vikings?
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Sure, Erick the Red.
he was a plunerin, rapin, and murderin fool, too~[/quote]
It’s always been my dream to be so badass that I would be immortalized as a lego one day.
[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
Which animals? Because last I checked… most wild animal populations are managed by us… and aren’t that big. lol[/quote]
Maybe in the east coast.
I am sitting here, on the edge of town, looking at 6 huge elk in my front yard. Each probably 1,000+ lbs. I could kill two and eat all year.
Probably passed 30-40 deer going to work.[/quote]
Yeah, for sure.
I meant more along the lines of threats from things like bears, wolves, coyotes, cougars, etc…
but I was thinking in relative terms of human populations now vs. animal populations now…
not a few thousand survivors (or less) vs. animal populations then… so really, I wasn’t even thinking along the lines of the discussion. lol
and on a side note:
It really did surprise me how scarce white tails are in my area… I’ve had a couple of trail cams out in the middle of nowhere for a few months and I haven’t gotten nearly as many pictures of them as I thought I would. I placed them along deer trails too… I just didn’t know how little they actually pass through.[/quote]
They moved to Pa. Fuckahs.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
[quote]Oleena wrote:
[quote]hipsr4runnin wrote:
I always wondered if it would come down to THe Road meets Walking dead. So there are zombies out eating people, but food runs low, really low, so does wild game, [/quote]
This isn’t necessarily true. The wild animals would out-last the humans by a long shot. Some of them might even join in the flesh fest.[/quote]
Which animals? Because last I checked… most wild animal populations are managed by us… and aren’t that big. lol[/quote]
Texas has a slight problem with feral hogs.
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Mmm. Bacon.
[quote]imhungry wrote:
They moved to Pa. Fuckahs.[/quote]
That or they can smell/see my cams…
pictures I get always look like this:
[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
but I was thinking in relative terms of human populations now vs. animal populations now…
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I ran off two black bears out of my crawl space this fall, so I have to differ yet again.
BUT, I do live on a mountain stuck between an Indian Reservation (my tribe), a National Forest, a National Park, and a State Park.
Wolves and coyotes, too. Allegedly the occasional brown bear (the “Mexican Grizzly”) – I hope not to meet one of those, unless heavily armed at the time.
[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
They moved to Pa. Fuckahs.[/quote]
That or they can smell/see my cams…
pictures I get always look like this:[/quote]
I see the damn things almost every night, coming home from work. I had a young doe run into my back driver side door last Summer.
They’re handsome animals, but they’re like cock roaches around here.
They taste good, though.
[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
Mmm. Bacon.
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Feral hogs are generally full of worms and not to be eaten.
The zombie thread is turning into the hunter’s porn thread.
[quote]Oleena wrote:
The zombie thread is turning into the hunter’s porn thread.[/quote]
Isn’t that your cue to turn it onto zombie porn?? 
I think it is more prudent to not stockpile, but to create a bug-out bag and have a route planned to get out of Dodge. Chances are that any shit hitting the fan would be regional. For example, I live within evacuation range of the Fermi reactor near Detroit, and have family in Chicago and south Ohio. Chicago is out of the question, because I think the route would be flooded with unprepared people heading west. I’d need to take my family south, but don’t want to risk heading closer to Detroit or getting bottlenecked Toledo. I have a route planned that is on fairly major backroads, but avoids highways.
I have an M4, a few thousand rounds of ammo, and a big case full of enough supplies to last 3 days. With a place to go, a means to get there and firepower to back it up, I know my family will be safe.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
I’ve read this book. Very plausible plot.
http://www.onesecondafter.com/[/quote]
I checked it out after you mentioned it in another thread, and it was definitely an interesting read. I’m not sure I totally buy the whole wave of die-offs scenario. It makes for interesting reading, but I think the scale was more about drama than reality. If anything, I think something happening on that scale would bring out the same community attitude that WWII did, and Americans would be surviving with a vengeance.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
I’ve read this book. Very plausible plot.
http://www.onesecondafter.com/[/quote]
Thanks for the link, I was skimming this thread, clicked the link and ended up reading his entire site. I just ordered the book.
I’m betting a whole lot of our supposed allies would just love to see us crumble so they can kick us when we’re down.
[quote]borrek wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
I’ve read this book. Very plausible plot.
http://www.onesecondafter.com/[/quote]
I checked it out after you mentioned it in another thread, and it was definitely an interesting read. I’m not sure I totally buy the whole wave of die-offs scenario. It makes for interesting reading, but I think the scale was more about drama than reality. If anything, I think something happening on that scale would bring out the same community attitude that WWII did, and Americans would be surviving with a vengeance. [/quote]
I don’t remember exactly how many waves he had in the book, but I think there would be a few different waves. During WWII and other crises there has still been a national distribution set up for food and other supplies. If something like an EMP or another disaster took out a utility of one form or another I think that infrastructure of local food distribution shuts down, or at the least becomes much less efficient. And while humans, Americans specifically, can be extremely resourceful and resilient when they need to be, I think you’re still looking at an entire country full of Katrinas. As much as FEMA may have dropped the ball on that one the people that didn’t bug out in the face of imminent danger still waited around a destroyed urban environment for somebody to come save them. Even if FEMA is still operational after whatever disaster hits, there’s no way they’re bailing out every urban center in America. I think the first couple months would certainly be a horribly chaotic situation resulting in a huge number of deaths from lack of food or water, rampant disease due to the loss of efficient removal of refuse and human waste, and just straight up Wild West every man for himself panic.
So after all that insanity plays out I definitely think that people would band together and find a way through the ordeal. Smaller, more remote towns or concentrations of people would most likely get to this step sooner and more peacefully, so if anything I’d just make sure to get the hell away from any large groups of people. Large groups of people are high strung, easily spooked, and behave very irrationally especially in the face of adversity. Power goes out and it’s Black Friday at every grocery store in the country.
All that said it’d be interesting to see how long the remaining communities are able to effectively manage wild herds of animals once all the livestock are gone and hunting’s the only option for food.
[quote]Oleena wrote:
[quote]gonepostal wrote:
[quote]Oleena wrote:
[quote]gonepostal wrote:
Well in that case I think anybody in small towns with a decent rifle and a handgun would be doing alright…tsk tsk to everybody jumped on that animal lover thread band wagon your all screwed now[/quote]
I was thinking this. The hunter/farmers would be the best off. They generally have food stores and they have the ability to get more in a way which most wouldn’t be competing for.
I think I’d join a team with them.[/quote]
Would you eat a person if you had to?
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I’m not sure. I think it might depend on the person. What about you?[/quote]
I eat women all the time but I’ll save the details for SAMA
[quote]borrek wrote:
[quote]Oleena wrote:
The zombie thread is turning into the hunter’s porn thread.[/quote]
Isn’t that your cue to turn it onto zombie porn??
I think it is more prudent to not stockpile, but to create a bug-out bag and have a route planned to get out of Dodge. Chances are that any shit hitting the fan would be regional. For example, I live within evacuation range of the Fermi reactor near Detroit, and have family in Chicago and south Ohio. Chicago is out of the question, because I think the route would be flooded with unprepared people heading west. I’d need to take my family south, but don’t want to risk heading closer to Detroit or getting bottlenecked Toledo. I have a route planned that is on fairly major backroads, but avoids highways.
I have an M4, a few thousand rounds of ammo, and a big case full of enough supplies to last 3 days. With a place to go, a means to get there and firepower to back it up, I know my family will be safe.[/quote]
Good Plan - Shelter in place isn’t an effective strategy when you have to deal with huge groups of people (unless you plan to kill them all).
[quote]Oleena wrote:
I ran into a guy last night who thinks the US will be taken over in 10 years and there will be a full scale war resulting in food shortages, money being worthless, and anarchy for a while. He’s seriously stock-piling large amounts of guns, food, and silver in preparation for this. While I’m pretty sure it would never go down to the extreme he’s planning for, he brought up one good point- there are only two days worth of food on the grocery store shelves at any point in time. If there was a country-wide disaster of any sort, we would starve.
Naturally, this brought me to the zombie apocalypse.
Who would last the longest?
I’m pretty sure the power-lifters would outlast the bodybuilders (their low bodyfat percentage would prove problematic in the face of a food shortage).
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farmers ranchers, and hippies in that order.
people in cities would be done for.
Your buddy sounds a little nutty.
I think PLers lack of cardio would do them in when running from zombies.
http://www.survivalblog.com/2012/01/how_the_average_american_can_p.html
Survivalblog is one of the best online resources- tons of user submitted content. My wife and I just did an inventory of what we’ve got, the only big things left we need are water purifiers, more water, and more food saved up.
Once we move and I get a job and we get a house, we’ll install a chicken coop for eggs, and then find a co-op hopefully for veggies and milk and some meats. I’m not as big of a fan of having your own garden- if a SHTF situation happens I want as few people as possible to know how survival savvy I am.
Oh and guns. Lots of guns.
I wouldn’t say lots of guns. 3 tops. You want lots of ammo. lets now poise the question. What is your 3 weapons of choice?