The average buffalo would have provided up to 500 lbs of meat alone. They can typically weigh a ton. Not to mention the edible organs and other parts that were used. Several hundred buffalo could have been killed at a time easily. If 100 bison were killed, well, you can do the math. If this happened anytime during the summer there is simply no way all those animals could have been butchered before spoiling.
Running buffalo off a cliff is relevant to anything in the modern world how?
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Running buffalo off a cliff is relevant to anything in the modern world how? [/quote]
The argument was whether a particular hunting technique was unsportsmanlike.
A comparison to how the Native Americans hunted was brought into that argument.
[quote]CLINK wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Running buffalo off a cliff is relevant to anything in the modern world how? [/quote]
The argument was whether a particular hunting technique was unsportsmanlike.
A comparison to how the Native Americans hunted was brought into that argument.
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Whoever made that comparison is not very intelligent.
[quote]Will207 wrote:
Sort of off topic, but I think if more people had to hunt or at least participate in finishing an animal that meat consumption would go way down. I’ve been to a few pig roasts where some people are really turned off when they realize pork actually comes from an animal. [/quote]
That’s weird, because the Samoans I’ve partied with didn’t care. Heck, I got the honor of slitting the throat of the pig before gutting it and burying it in the ground.
[quote]Will207 wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Will207 wrote:
The idea of something writhing in pain for who knows how long doesn’t sit well with me. That’s why I say traps are grimy. If you’re talking about a cage of some kind, I suppose that is better.[/quote]
People starving because of lack of food doesn’t sit well with me.
Um, purely for sport is withing SPORTsmanlike conditions. So, you’ll have to tell me what you mean by that.[/quote]
If you’re starving you do what you have to do.
What I mean is you are out for the sole purpose of killing something, and then you create an environment that is more akin to a slaughter than a hunt. [/quote]
Like beef? I have rarely seen anyone treat hunting as a slaughter, except a few canned hunts that I heard about where they released deer out of a cage to be killed.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
…because some dumb ass purposefully entered the croc’s habitat and it did what it’s designed to do the animal should be put down? Agree to disagree I guess. [/quote]
I don’t have an opinion, but that is the policy of fish and game.[/quote]
Gotcha, imo it’s a stupid policy. [/quote]
Well, generally predators once they found easy prey of humans they kind stick to it like the Lions in Tanzania.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]Will207 wrote:
Most hunters I know do eat meat
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I should hope that ALL of the hunters you know eat meat.
I wouldn’t imagine that many hunters are vegan or vegetarian.
Which reminds me of a funny story. Bill Mollison, the Australian founder of the Permaculture sustainable agriculture movement, was visiting the Japanese Permaculture Institute. This institute did a lot of appropriate-technology, organic gardening, ecologically-friendly activities, and the members were by and large millet-eating earth children.
Mollison literally wrote the book on Permaculture, and was viewed by the faithful as some sort of an inspired guru. So when they asked him what they should do about the prevalent wild boar problem (uprooting fruit trees, digging out earth swales and raised garden beds, etc.), they were likely expecting an enlightened, mellow solution that would be in harmony with Gaia.
Instead, Mollison’s advice was,
“Catch ‘em an’ eat 'em.”[/quote]
During Lent and Advent I am a vegetarian. Good to confuse butchers when I tell them I am a vegetarian.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
https://gma.yahoo.com/cheerleader-fights-back-against-critics-her-big-game-172547538--abc-news-topstories.html?vp=1
Appropriate for this thread. [/quote]
Man, what a girl.
Kendall Jones, huh?
Lemme guess: her great-granddaddy’s name was Henry, but his friends called him “Indiana”.[/quote]
Ha! Ya, she’s an impressive young lady. [/quote]
Interesting turn of events.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/10/left-wing-liberal-politician-in-virginia-posts-shocking-offer-involving-nude-photos-of-texas-cheerleader-who-loves-to-hunt/
If I was her, I’d send him a pic myself. $100K for a tit pic? No problem.
Killing big cats for “sport” is about as scummy as it gets.
Idaho wolf attacked by woman.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Killing big cats for “sport” is about as scummy as it gets. [/quote]
What about killing little cats for money?
Gotta love a chick who hunts with a bow.
Great shot by a 12 year old. The cat was stalking her and got within 5 yards.
Alyssa Caldwell, a 12-year-old from Odessa, Texas, was elk hunting with her father in New Mexico in late November when she shot a mountain lion, which stalked in to 5 yards from the girl and crouched down as if to attack. “I didnâ??t hear him or see him until he was really close,” Caldwell told Lone Star Outdoor News. “I didnâ??t know exactly what it was but I knew it wasnâ??t a bobcat. I raised my gun when he crouched down.”
The duo had just left a makeshift aspen blind over a waterhole they’d been hunting, when Alyssa’s father, Joshua, realized he’d forgotten their shooting sticks and left his daughter alone while he went to retrieve them. She was still on her own about a minute later, when she spotted the big cat approaching and made the call to shoot it head-on, killing it instantly.
“I knew it was stalking me,” she said. “I had a feeling right before that something was watching me. After I shot, I kept the gun on it the whole time. Dad ran back and he thought I had shot an elk. I told him I had shot a cat and he got real emotional.”
Most western states have seasons for mountain lion hunting, and killing one without a tag is a violation, unless the hunter can prove self defense. Game wardens confiscated the cat, and allowed the Caldwells to continue their elk hunt. “They didn’t give us any grief,” said Joshua. Two days later, Alyssa took a 6x4 bull elk at 375 yards.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Great shot by a 12 year old. The cat was stalking her and got within 5 yards.
Alyssa Caldwell, a 12-year-old from Odessa, Texas, was elk hunting with her father in New Mexico in late November when she shot a mountain lion, which stalked in to 5 yards from the girl and crouched down as if to attack. “I didnâ??t hear him or see him until he was really close,” Caldwell told Lone Star Outdoor News. “I didnâ??t know exactly what it was but I knew it wasnâ??t a bobcat. I raised my gun when he crouched down.”
The duo had just left a makeshift aspen blind over a waterhole they’d been hunting, when Alyssa’s father, Joshua, realized he’d forgotten their shooting sticks and left his daughter alone while he went to retrieve them. She was still on her own about a minute later, when she spotted the big cat approaching and made the call to shoot it head-on, killing it instantly.
“I knew it was stalking me,” she said. “I had a feeling right before that something was watching me. After I shot, I kept the gun on it the whole time. Dad ran back and he thought I had shot an elk. I told him I had shot a cat and he got real emotional.”
Most western states have seasons for mountain lion hunting, and killing one without a tag is a violation, unless the hunter can prove self defense. Game wardens confiscated the cat, and allowed the Caldwells to continue their elk hunt. “They didn’t give us any grief,” said Joshua. Two days later, Alyssa took a 6x4 bull elk at 375 yards.[/quote]
Pretty switched on kid.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Killing big cats for “sport” is about as scummy as it gets. [/quote]
As ironic as it may seem, the money that goes to hunting lions is what protects them.
When the American Buffalo was nearly killed to extinction, it was because there were no hunting laws, or conservation plans in place.
Show me a species, that exists in an area with hunting laws and conservations plans, that isn’t surviving or even thriving.
Loss of habitat is more of a threat to animals than hunters. Hunters want animals. Hunting costs (licenses, tags, etc.) is what gives these animals value. Most people consider undeveloped land to be worth more than the animals who live on it.