Idaho Woman Attacked by Wolf

[WN76]

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

I don’t see how the stat is fabricated. According to the article, this is the first incident of a fatal wolf attack in the state. In a previous post I referenced several fatal hunting accidents. Since there were several fatal hunting accidents VS the one wolf attack, it’s fair to say hunters are more lethal to humans in Alaska than wolves. This is irrefutable.

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It’s fabricated because you made the distinction that accidental death by another wolf hunter was riskier than jogging in wolf country:

WN wrote:

You are more likely to be killed by another hunter participating in the wolf hunt than by a wolf.

In fact the only statistic you could possibly provide in that regard are accidental deaths in “all hunting” or “all big game hunting.” In other words I seriously doubt you can cite a reference that relates to deadly firearms accidents while wolf hunting in Alaska.

If my presumption holds up (we’ll see, won’t we?) then we can safely conclude you fabricated the statistic.

That’s quite an assumption to make about me considering we’ve never met.

I think it’s a safe one.

Tell us how you know you could be the Tough Guy in Alaska who has no fear of being alone in the wild armed only with your table of statistics, including a fabricated one, in the vicinity of wolves who’d just killed one person.

Tell us all about it. We’ll wait.

Mind you, you’re talking to someone who’s lived in Alaska. Hunted in Alaska. Spent nights in a flimsy tent by a frozen river at -30F listening to the wolves nearby clean up a caribou gut pile.

So lay all that internet bravado on me, bro.

Also, your support of the knee-jerk reaction by the state is out of character.

The state need not do it. If I gave you the impression that I would only approve of state officials culling the wolf packs, I’m so, so sorry.

Alaska has ample resources of private aircraft, hunters and weapons.
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You got me. Wolf hunting is probably safer than hunting any other game in Alaska. I really should have specified that I meant all types of hunting. The type of game you are hunting is a critical factor in people fatally shooting their friends.

Who said anything about not being armed in the wild? It wasn’t me. I also didn’t say anything about being capable of taking on a pack of wolves. One dog with a knife, sure.

Funny that you mention internet bravado after detailing your experience as an Alaskan outdoorsman.

You don’t debate like this in real life, do you?

[Aggv]

according to Push, anyone not named Ranulph Fiennes or Les Stroud is a liberal pussy city slicker who cant possibly understand what goes on in the wild.

[zecarlo]

[quote]WN76 wrote:
You don’t debate like this in real life, do you?
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Shhhhhh…don’t tell him the internet isn’t real life.

[zecarlo]

pushharder wrote: It would tangibly result in the deaths of the wolves most likely to have killed the woman. Yes, that would be vengeance;

No, it wouldn’t be vengeance since you can’t seek revenge on an animal. It’s not how revenge works. Again, haven’t you read Moby Dick?

[theuofh]

Unrelated but interesting little flick…

How Wolves Change Rivers

I also read a book on Lewis and Clarke awhile back. If you’ve seen Dances with Wolves, you may be able to visualize how many buffalo there were back then. They were saying there were just as many wolves chasing around the buffalo herds. This was circa 1800 before really any travel Westward. That is something I would really like to have seen.

[WWEAttitude]

I dont know bout crocodiles, but wolves DO deserve to be put down if they attack another human being. Animals know instinctively that theyre not to attack humans, as we are at the top of the food chain and can shoot them down if need be. This is the reason why most of the time if you hike in woods predators do not attack you if you are in a group and are making alot of noise, and why most of them only attack if they are threatened or you are alone & vulnerable.

Any animal that deviates from this instinct is the outlier that should be dealt with, kind of like how we deal with sociopaths who show no remorse for crimes. Also, once a predator attacks and takes a chunk out of you it gains the taste for human flesh, and WILL attack again as its eating habits have been interfered with. This is another reason why you shouldnt feed wild animals unnatural food (candy, bread, trail mix, etc.)

[Aggv]

[quote]WWEAttitude wrote:
Animals know instinctively that they`re not to attack humans[/quote]

I think youre confusing domesticated animals with wild animals.

[WN76]

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]WWEAttitude wrote:
Animals know instinctively that they`re not to attack humans[/quote]

I think youre confusing domesticated animals with wild animals. [/quote]

Domesticated animals attack people as well. More so than wolves.

[WN76]

Average Number of Deaths per Year in the U.S

Bee/Wasp 53
Dogs 31
Spider 6.5
Rattlesnake 5.5
Mountain lion 1
Shark 1
Alligator 0.3
Bear 0.5
Scorpion 0.5
Centipede 0.5
Elephant 0.25
Wolf 0.1
Horse 20
Bull 3

[Aggv]

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]WWEAttitude wrote:
Animals know instinctively that they`re not to attack humans[/quote]

I think youre confusing domesticated animals with wild animals. [/quote]

Domesticated animals attack people as well. More so than wolves. [/quote]

true, animals and people attack people. Better kill every living thing on the planet.

[zecarlo]

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Ya know sumthin, my friend? It wouldn’t matter if 405,908 humans died from elephant attacks every month in one county of Rhode Island alone…because if wolves attacked and devoured a woman jogger in an Alaskan village those wolves should be hunted down and shot by the folks that give a fuck about that particular Alaskan village.[/quote]
There’s something about the internet that brings out the real man in someone.

[cwill1973]

There is something about the internet that causes people to have opinions on subjects they have no knowledge of and are far removed from.

[anon50325502]

[quote]WWEAttitude wrote:
Animals know instinctively that they`re not to attack humans[/quote]

That’s rich…

[WWEAttitude]

It`s really not that hard to understand.Wild animals are supposed to fear humans because we are a superior lifeform, capable of more complex tasks apart from the biological functions of sleeping, eating, and mating. Generations of evolution from the hunting-gathering era has led wild animals to instinctively avoid the alphas of the natural world, i.e. humans unless threatened, because they know that we can easily end them with more manpower and weaponry. Ever see a fox or gazelle attack a lion? it’s cuz they know that they’re not supposed to because of Darwinism.

Wolves are intelligent animals, so they should know not to attack humans. Any intelligent animal choosing to go against its biological programming, or that doesn’t have that evolutionary instinct to be cautious deserves to be put down.

[Stinkfist]

[quote]WWEAttitude wrote:
It`s really not that hard to understand.Wild animals are supposed to fear humans because we are a superior lifeform, capable of more complex tasks apart from the biological functions of sleeping, eating, and mating. Generations of evolution from the hunting-gathering era has led wild animals to instinctively avoid the alphas of the natural world, i.e. humans unless threatened, because they know that we can easily end them with more manpower and weaponry. Ever see a fox or gazelle attack a lion? it’s cuz they know that they’re not supposed to because of Darwinism.

Wolves are intelligent animals, so they should know not to attack humans. Any intelligent animal choosing to go against its biological programming, or that doesn’t have that evolutionary instinct to be cautious deserves to be put down.[/quote]
Predators don’t know the difference between a “superior” life form from any other living thing. Put a human in their territory and see how “superior” they see them.

It’s either food or a threat… or, both. They are opportunists who are looking for an easy kill, without harming themselves as little as possible.

[RATTLEHEAD]

[quote]WWEAttitude wrote:
Ever see a fox or gazelle attack a lion? it’s cuz they know that they’re not supposed to because of Darwinism.
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lol

Please shut up.

[roybot]

[quote]WWEAttitude wrote:
Ever see a fox or gazelle attack a lion? it’s cuz they know that they’re not supposed to because of Darwinism.

Wolves are intelligent animals, so they should know not to attack humans. Any intelligent animal choosing to go against its biological programming, or that doesn’t have that evolutionary instinct to be cautious deserves to be put down.[/quote]

They’re not supposed to because of Darwinism.

[WWEAttitude]

[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]WWEAttitude wrote:
Ever see a fox or gazelle attack a lion? it’s cuz they know that they’re not supposed to because of Darwinism.
[/quote]

lol

Please shut up.[/quote]

Nice retort. Care to explain where I’m wrong?

Fear and caution are evolutionary advantages, as stated by Darwinism, animals that fear and choose to hide from obviously superior organisms, live long enough to reproduce, and pass their genes along to the next gen. If the fox/gazelle goes against that instinct, it dies. Its that simple. How is that any different from going out to kill a wolf that’s attacked one of your own? The only difference we choose to artifically select because we know what we gotta do, while in the wild its all about natural selection that wipes out the inferior genes.