I Messed Up----DBOL 1st Cycle

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Look, you bought anabolic steroids ILLEGALLY - do you think that the ancillary drugs you need are going to be at Vitamin Shoppe (Holland and Barratt) or GNC?

Have you googled the words they used for the drug? To blatantly point it out - [quote]“Find a research chemical company ASAP and order nolvadex”[/quote]

Also - to be fair to all here - it was explained to you the reason why you could stop immediately with no issue - and that if you waited past 3 weeks, this wouldn’t be the case…

You ended up not only NOT getting the Nolvadex/Tamoxifen, but ALSO not even stopping immediately. You were given two options, and you claim you didnt know which to choose - so you did NEITHER!

At this point, you NEED to get Tamoxifen to come off with as little issue as possible, trust me when i swear that tapering is not going to do much for you.

If you are not going to try hard enough to get the Tamoxifen, then i suggest you DO a taper like i will suggest, then brace for a loss of libido and a drop in energy and mood for a couple of weeks (dbol, luckily isnt too bad in this case, and is not as suppressive as many others - especially at 25mg/day).

So, if you don’t use the Nolvadex (Tamoxifen), then do this:

Take your dbol in the morning only.

Every 2 days drop 1 tablet until you are at 5mg a day.

Then stop altogether.

You will have tapered enough to avoid a big swing in Androgen:Estrogen levels, thus avoiding a big swing in favour of estrogen - but not so long (as you were advised) so as to further reduce your recovery chances.
You will then have a lowered testosterone level for a couple of weeks (IME this is about as long as it takes for a mild dbol cycle, tops) which will mean you have low energy, low sex drive, maybe acne, possibly gyno (although the chances of this are reduced with the short taper) and irritability.

IF you google “CEM Products” you will have no problem finding a decent research chemical company (;p) that sell Tamoxifen… then you could not only continue the cycle till the end, adding 20-40mg tamoxifen a day, but you could then run a Post Cycle Therapy such as 40mg of Tamoxifen a day for two weeks (started the day after the last Dbol dose) followed by 20mg a day for the next two weeks.

Don’t let me hear anyone say i never give anyone nowt…

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[quote]geo515 wrote:
update-- i ran into a guy in da gym n he told me to take the same dosage every other day for a week then every third day and then four days and then stop. and he said i should start anti-estrogen (just in case)now all i need to do is find a place to get the nolva from asap…

p.s. - thanks JonEighPackGuy for that comment…it really helps when people just criticize instead of give advise…u were once a begginer and probably made some mistakes too and someone helped u out with advise…now ur too wise to help. i understand that begginer mistakes are annoying but i dont think im the first or the last.[/quote]

I wasn’t meaning no hate or nothing man, I just had to post that though.

Good luck though, you should be fine, just stop and use a PCT.

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JonEight - its cool bro, i appreciate ur help.

thanks to all that posted in here, I will update what happens and you might see me again asking ALOT of questions before i start another cycle…

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[quote]geo515 wrote:
JonEight - its cool bro, i appreciate ur help.

thanks to all that posted in here, I will update what happens and you might see me again asking ALOT of questions before i start another cycle…[/quote]

I read up for a YEAR before starting my first course and still nearly fucked it up.

Guys like Brook are dispensing free advice on here everyday that is worth an absolute fortune. It amazes me that people still screw up cycles with all the info out there.

Anyway, Google RESEARCH Labs + Nolva and you’ll easily find a supplier of Nolva.

Good luck bro, you’ll be ok in a few weeks.

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Asking questions is the beginning of all knowledge.

Sometimes it’s best to just read read read and rarely post. Unless something specific you have hasn’t been brought up. Unless you want to just bullshit around in other parts like Get a life off topic but in all other parts I just like to read stuff.

I think you’ll be fine honestly. It’s your first cycle and you are barely in it.

Keep us updated man.

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Anyone know what he was panicking about? Haha was it just getting some side affects or was he actually getting them

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I believe he sprouted goat horns and his feet turned into hoofs. Another couple weeks on dbol and he took up the pan flute and hasn’t been heard from since.