How to Understand Rush Limbaugh

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
“If freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”

George Washington[/quote]

Witness: Political Correctness.[/quote]
Example?[/quote]

I can’t give you any because I would get in trouble for saying them.[/quote]

Be a bit funnier if someone else didn’t beat you to it. :P[/quote]

Funny or not they both speak the truth. Political correctness has seriously damaged our free speech. And it has been brought to us by the liberals.
[/quote]

Oh. look. Zeb said something bad about liberals. yawn.[/quote]

Thanks for asking yes there is more:

Liberals have brought us higher taxes, homosexual marriage, abortion on demand, removal of prayer from schools, the entitlement mentality, big ineffective government, class warfare and a weak foreign policy.

As I’ve said many times, if you are a hard working person with a family there is absolutely no reason to ever vote for a democrat.

Did I miss anything guys?[/quote]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

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[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
“If freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”

George Washington[/quote]

Witness: Political Correctness.[/quote]
Example?[/quote]

I can’t give you any because I would get in trouble for saying them.[/quote]

Be a bit funnier if someone else didn’t beat you to it. :P[/quote]

Funny or not they both speak the truth. Political correctness has seriously damaged our free speech. And it has been brought to us by the liberals.
[/quote]

Oh. look. Zeb said something bad about liberals. yawn.[/quote]

Thanks for asking yes there is more:

Liberals have brought us higher taxes, homosexual marriage, abortion on demand, removal of prayer from schools, the entitlement mentality, big ineffective government, class warfare and a weak foreign policy.

As I’ve said many times, if you are a hard working person with a family there is absolutely no reason to ever vote for a democrat.

Did I miss anything guys?[/quote]

  1. Who cares if gay dudes want to play marriage?
  2. A truly evil thing
  3. Prayer doesn’t belong in government funded schools. Do you want your kid forced to pray to Allah?
  4. Entitlements are not limited to Democrats.
  5. Do you want a big effective government instead?
  6. I hate how the Democratic party plays class warfare.
  7. WW1, WW2, Vietnam are Democrat wars.

A mixed bag.

I dislike the Democratic party but the Republicans are not much better.

And back to political correctness, it shielded the Fort Hood shooter.[/quote]

double post,

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[quote]apbt55 wrote:

And school’s should not be funded by the government or taxes. [/quote]

Not by the Federal government. I am of mixed thoughts on local funding but the further away from local the funding gets the crazier things get.

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[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I am not going to pour gas on the birther argument, but truth be told, regarding the “not an American” argument, he has been less than forthcoming when it comes to proving he is an American. Just saying. [/quote]

typical pundit bullshit move. “I’m not gonna, but I just did, but since I said I wasn’t gonna, I’m abdicated from the implications of what I said”[/quote]

I am not going to agree with siouxperman here, but truth be told, if someone isn’t going to say something, they should just shut the fuck up instead of taking the time to type out what they’re “not saying”. Just saying.[/quote]

As long as you address this to FI too, I am ok with that, since I was commenting on HIM BRINGING IT UP. [/quote]

Who’s FI? You were the only one on that page to bring up “birther”[/quote]

FI = Fighting Irish.

And I was responding to his “defamation” claim that he was “not an American” by some people.

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[quote]tedro wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:
Because he wants to make birthers look silly.

Either this is the best planned conspiracy ever or he is tweaking people.

I would do the same in his position.[/quote]

He had his records sealed before he even announced his candidacy. This wasn’t discovered until Hillary Clinton tried to get his kindergarten records, which would have required a birth certificate. Tell me, why would he have bothered sealing a Kindergarten record before anyone was talking about his natural-born citizenship status. In fact, it is the sealing of all of his records and complete lack of transparency that got people digging in the first place.

So, and correct me if I’m wrong, you are saying that Obama knew beforehand that some would question his birth place, so he sealed all of his records beforehand because he wanted them to look silly later on? In other words, your conspiracy theory is that Obama created a conspiracy theory that would shed a poor light on him only so he could make others look silly? This makes sense to you, but thinking that Obama may be hiding some crucial information and that is why he won’t release anything doesn’t?[/quote]

I don’t think he sealed his records he just failed to make them available. I am not sure how this works but in order to make scholastic records available you have to sign a release.

I doubt he thought about the birther controversy but I am sure he had much he didn’t want the public to see. He admitted to dealing pot. I am sure he is covering up much more. Like almost everyone else.

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[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]apbt55 wrote:

And school’s should not be funded by the government or taxes. [/quote]

Not by the Federal government. I am of mixed thoughts on local funding but the further away from local the funding gets the crazier things get.[/quote]

In the area I live in, there are schools that push the maximum tax increase they can without referendum every year. They can do so without any legislative changes or without a vote from the tax payers. In most of the these districts it is done through a property tax. The tax is so outrageous it is actually forcing people out of their homes, people without children, who have no say in what is even taught in the schools. This is discrimination against property owners, I wonder if there would be a way to file a class action law suite against the dept of ed. making it so non property owners shared the burden as well. I know some districts even tax income.

A school should not have the ability to tax. The government should not be in the school, because then they have the final say in what is taught, not the parents.

And schools are more like lockdown now, then a real educational system.

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[quote]apbt55 wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]apbt55 wrote:

And school’s should not be funded by the government or taxes. [/quote]

Not by the Federal government. I am of mixed thoughts on local funding but the further away from local the funding gets the crazier things get.[/quote]

In the area I live in, there are schools that push the maximum tax increase they can without referendum every year. They can do so without any legislative changes or without a vote from the tax payers. In most of the these districts it is done through a property tax. The tax is so outrageous it is actually forcing people out of their homes, people without children, who have no say in what is even taught in the schools. This is discrimination against property owners, I wonder if there would be a way to file a class action law suite against the dept of ed. making it so non property owners shared the burden as well. I know some districts even tax income.

A school should not have the ability to tax. The government should not be in the school, because then they have the final say in what is taught, not the parents.

And schools are more like lockdown now, then a real educational system. [/quote]

I agree that the idea of local school boards levying and raising property taxes is ridiculous.

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We are dealing with the same thing here apbt55. But in our case, it is to pay for teacher pensions. Our school district has the highest paid teachers in the country, yet ranks 41st in student performance. As a tax payer, why should I pay more when the return in my investment (aka the kids education) is not up to par? Fuck it, if half the kids drop out, why bother paying the tax increase?

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I am not going to pour gas on the birther argument, but truth be told, regarding the “not an American” argument, he has been less than forthcoming when it comes to proving he is an American. Just saying. [/quote]

typical pundit bullshit move. “I’m not gonna, but I just did, but since I said I wasn’t gonna, I’m abdicated from the implications of what I said”[/quote]

I am not going to agree with siouxperman here, but truth be told, if someone isn’t going to say something, they should just shut the fuck up instead of taking the time to type out what they’re “not saying”. Just saying.[/quote]

As long as you address this to FI too, I am ok with that, since I was commenting on HIM BRINGING IT UP. [/quote]

Who’s FI? You were the only one on that page to bring up “birther”[/quote]

FI = Fighting Irish.

And I was responding to his “defamation” claim that he was “not an American” by some people. [/quote]

Fighting Irish is in this thread? I’m lost. Anyway, I was just getting at that cop out style of saying something. It’s really annoying.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
We are dealing with the same thing here apbt55. But in our case, it is to pay for teacher pensions. Our school district has the highest paid teachers in the country, yet ranks 41st in student performance. As a tax payer, why should I pay more when the return in my investment (aka the kids education) is not up to par? Fuck it, if half the kids drop out, why bother paying the tax increase?[/quote]

Oh it is the same here, the increases are to cover pensions and benefits for the teachers.

It makes me sick though, these people are literally putting some retired couples into foreclosure.

Say you were planning for retirement 15 years ago and thought well instead of my property tax being 500 it may be 1000, but with the department of education circumventing congress to levy taxes, they are now closer to 10,000. That is absolute bull and these people should be charged criminally for this.

there are a number of more affluent areas where they have put in housing assistance programs bringing droves of people who cannot afford the houses, live off of welfare and food stamps. and then these also burden the schools. Requiring more teachers, more security and driving up tax rates. and in many of the areas, the schools tax property so only property owners are feeling this burden.

I can only imagine the problem it presents in CA, here taxes will usually equal a typical mortgage payment for the home, if it is in escrow.

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[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I am not going to pour gas on the birther argument, but truth be told, regarding the “not an American” argument, he has been less than forthcoming when it comes to proving he is an American. Just saying. [/quote]

typical pundit bullshit move. “I’m not gonna, but I just did, but since I said I wasn’t gonna, I’m abdicated from the implications of what I said”[/quote]

I am not going to agree with siouxperman here, but truth be told, if someone isn’t going to say something, they should just shut the fuck up instead of taking the time to type out what they’re “not saying”. Just saying.[/quote]

As long as you address this to FI too, I am ok with that, since I was commenting on HIM BRINGING IT UP. [/quote]

Who’s FI? You were the only one on that page to bring up “birther”[/quote]

FI = Fighting Irish.

And I was responding to his “defamation” claim that he was “not an American” by some people. [/quote]

Fighting Irish is in this thread? I’m lost. Anyway, I was just getting at that cop out style of saying something. It’s really annoying.
[/quote]

Sorry that was my confusion, the comment was made by Pitbull, not Fighting Irish. My cop out was in response to his comment regarding defamation.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

And I would be remiss if I did not remind my liberal friends that they never said a word when the MSLM was castigating Bush. Calling him Nazi and blaming him for every possible sin imaginable.

[/quote]

I cannot imagine a reputable media outlet calling the president a Nazi. MSNBC doesn’t count obviously.

Show me otherwise.

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[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

And I would be remiss if I did not remind my liberal friends that they never said a word when the MSLM was castigating Bush. Calling him Nazi and blaming him for every possible sin imaginable.

[/quote]

I cannot imagine a reputable media outlet calling the president a Nazi. MSNBC doesn’t count obviously.

Show me otherwise.[/quote]

I just made up all of that stuff. We all know that the MSLM loved Bush. In fact, they were driving up his poll numbers with all of their positive commentary.

Uh huh.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I am not going to pour gas on the birther argument, but truth be told, regarding the “not an American” argument, he has been less than forthcoming when it comes to proving he is an American. Just saying. [/quote]

typical pundit bullshit move. “I’m not gonna, but I just did, but since I said I wasn’t gonna, I’m abdicated from the implications of what I said”[/quote]

I am not going to agree with siouxperman here, but truth be told, if someone isn’t going to say something, they should just shut the fuck up instead of taking the time to type out what they’re “not saying”. Just saying.[/quote]

As long as you address this to FI too, I am ok with that, since I was commenting on HIM BRINGING IT UP. [/quote]

Who’s FI? You were the only one on that page to bring up “birther”[/quote]

FI = Fighting Irish.

And I was responding to his “defamation” claim that he was “not an American” by some people. [/quote]

Fighting Irish is in this thread? I’m lost. Anyway, I was just getting at that cop out style of saying something. It’s really annoying.
[/quote]

Sorry that was my confusion, the comment was made by Pitbull, not Fighting Irish. My cop out was in response to his comment regarding defamation. [/quote]

What claim ?

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

And I would be remiss if I did not remind my liberal friends that they never said a word when the MSLM was castigating Bush. Calling him Nazi and blaming him for every possible sin imaginable.

[/quote]

I cannot imagine a reputable media outlet calling the president a Nazi. MSNBC doesn’t count obviously.

Show me otherwise.[/quote]

I just made up all of that stuff. We all know that the MSLM loved Bush. In fact, they were driving up his poll numbers with all of their positive commentary.

Uh huh.
[/quote]

I was referring to the specific Nazi claim.

And I think the media had a right to criticize Bush. I mean look at his legacy. But NPR and the like was always grounded in responsible reporting. I can’t speak for people like CBS. I don’t watch television news.

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defamation

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
defamation[/quote]

Attacking another persons reputation with untruths

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Nevermind, I got yelled at for commenting on your mention of defamation. Apparently, someone didn’t know you mentioned it earlier, then thought I pulled it out my ass for no reason.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Nevermind, I got yelled at for commenting on your mention of defamation. Apparently, someone didn’t know you mentioned it earlier, then thought I pulled it out my ass for no reason. [/quote]

hah, you got “yelled at” for that retarded passive aggressive crap.

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[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Nevermind, I got yelled at for commenting on your mention of defamation. Apparently, someone didn’t know you mentioned it earlier, then thought I pulled it out my ass for no reason. [/quote]

hah, you got “yelled at” for that retarded passive aggressive crap.[/quote]

As opposed to “pulling it out of nowhere?” Nice save… not.