[quote]John Mclane wrote:
Thing is, if someone needs 250-300mg of protein a day, then 6 meals - with 50mg of protein per sitting = 300 grams od protein - seems the way to go for me, especially as it would be hard for the body to take/digest more than 50gms of protein a day at any one time, or am I wrong?[/quote]
Digesting is a process spanning hours. I don’t know what you mean by digesting something “at one time”.
Right now I’m only eating 2 real meals a day.
[quote]John Mclane wrote:
Thing is, if someone needs 250-300mg of protein a day, then 6 meals - with 50mg of protein per sitting = 300 grams od protein - seems the way to go for me, especially as it would be hard for the body to take/digest more than 50gms of protein a day at any one time, or am I wrong?[/quote]
That’s a great point. I was always taught I could only take in/process 45grams for every hour and a half.
[quote]Jungleman wrote:
[quote]John Mclane wrote:
Thing is, if someone needs 250-300mg of protein a day, then 6 meals - with 50mg of protein per sitting = 300 grams od protein - seems the way to go for me, especially as it would be hard for the body to take/digest more than 50gms of protein a day at any one time, or am I wrong?[/quote]
That’s a great point. I was always taught I could only take in/process 45grams for every hour and a half.[/quote]
There is no evidence supporting that, but even if it were true:
Say it takes 10 hours to digest a meal, that’s 300 grams of protein you can get out of a single meal.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Jungleman wrote:
[quote]John Mclane wrote:
Thing is, if someone needs 250-300mg of protein a day, then 6 meals - with 50mg of protein per sitting = 300 grams od protein - seems the way to go for me, especially as it would be hard for the body to take/digest more than 50gms of protein a day at any one time, or am I wrong?[/quote]
That’s a great point. I was always taught I could only take in/process 45grams for every hour and a half.[/quote]
There is no evidence supporting that, but even if it were true:
Say it takes 10 hours to digest a meal, that’s 300 grams of protein you can get out of a single meal.[/quote]
No, 45-50 from every meal, and the rest is turned into waste because you’re body can’t process that much at once.
[quote]Jungleman wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Jungleman wrote:
[quote]John Mclane wrote:
Thing is, if someone needs 250-300mg of protein a day, then 6 meals - with 50mg of protein per sitting = 300 grams od protein - seems the way to go for me, especially as it would be hard for the body to take/digest more than 50gms of protein a day at any one time, or am I wrong?[/quote]
That’s a great point. I was always taught I could only take in/process 45grams for every hour and a half.[/quote]
There is no evidence supporting that, but even if it were true:
Say it takes 10 hours to digest a meal, that’s 300 grams of protein you can get out of a single meal.[/quote]
No, 45-50 from every meal, and the rest is turned into waste because you’re body can’t process that much at once.
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If digestion and absorption takes half a day, what does at once mean?
But no, as far as I’m aware there is no evidence at all to support that.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]John Mclane wrote:
Thing is, if someone needs 250-300mg of protein a day, then 6 meals - with 50mg of protein per sitting = 300 grams od protein - seems the way to go for me, especially as it would be hard for the body to take/digest more than 50gms of protein a day at any one time, or am I wrong?[/quote]
Digesting is a process spanning hours. I don’t know what you mean by digesting something “at one time”.
Right now I’m only eating 2 real meals a day.[/quote]
Same here, having been pooping out hamburger or chunks of steak yet.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Focusing on “6 meals a day” is how I got big. When you are really skinny, you need to force those calories in a way that someone who did not start out that way with that fast a metabolism can’t understand.
Arguing about whether specifically “6 meals a day” is needed is a wast of time.
No, you don’t NEED 6 meals a day…but it isn’t like that strategy didn’t help a shitload of guys get really big over the last 50 years or so…[/quote]
Agreed.
To continue with this, some people can get food down easily, some cant… There is no way I could get my needed calories if I didnt eat “smaller” portions every 2-3hours instead of having 2-3 big meals… I have a hard time getting 60g of proteins from chicken in just one sitting, I dont even want to think about getting 120g of proteins from chickin in one sitting…
For people not having a hard time getting the food down, sure, no problemo amigo
For people having a harder time with it, its easier to forcefeed over several meals, and it will make you feel less shitty
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]Jungleman wrote:
"Never skip a meal to “save calories.” In doing so you’re more likely to overeat later in the day. One of the worst things you can do is to go for prolonged periods of time without eating. You should eat to prevent hunger, not because you’re hungry. Even if you’re not hungry and it’s been three hours, eat something. A protein shake with a handful of mixed nuts would suffice. "
That’s where I got it from.
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Eh, the “science” behind needing to eat 6 meals has been disproven. I personally do it because it’s just easiest to get my calories in if I spread out my meals. But if you can hit your macro goals in 3 meals there’s no reason not to eat that way.[/quote]
What “science” is there to it other than meeting a need?
Mind you, most of the people completely against that strategy don’t look like bodybuilders.
I don’t eat that often now because it isn’t necessary. I have a solid protein source that allows me to get away with less calories.
The real advice should be “to eat in whatever way makes you grow the most”…and for many guys for a very long time, eating that often helped them do that.[/quote]
I meant the old argument that you had to do it from keeping your body from going catabolic, and keeping blood sugar even… I’m agreeing with you, do whatever you need to do to get the appropriate calories in, whether that’s 3 or 6 or 9 meals or whatever.
I personally eat 7x per day including shakes, and that’s worked great for me. OP might progress fine on 3 meals, but like you said, do whatever you gotta do to hit calorie and macro goals.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]John Mclane wrote:
Thing is, if someone needs 250-300mg of protein a day, then 6 meals - with 50mg of protein per sitting = 300 grams od protein - seems the way to go for me, especially as it would be hard for the body to take/digest more than 50gms of protein a day at any one time, or am I wrong?[/quote]
Digesting is a process spanning hours. I don’t know what you mean by digesting something “at one time”.
Right now I’m only eating 2 real meals a day.[/quote]
That’s good. How do you look as a result? How fast are you growing?
I would still be 150lbs only eating twice a day from the start.
[quote]Jungleman wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Jungleman wrote:
[quote]John Mclane wrote:
Thing is, if someone needs 250-300mg of protein a day, then 6 meals - with 50mg of protein per sitting = 300 grams od protein - seems the way to go for me, especially as it would be hard for the body to take/digest more than 50gms of protein a day at any one time, or am I wrong?[/quote]
That’s a great point. I was always taught I could only take in/process 45grams for every hour and a half.[/quote]
There is no evidence supporting that, but even if it were true:
Say it takes 10 hours to digest a meal, that’s 300 grams of protein you can get out of a single meal.[/quote]
No, 45-50 from every meal, and the rest is turned into waste because you’re body can’t process that much at once.
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I’ve seen a lot of people argue that… none of whom have the strength/physique I aspire to.
Everyone I’ve seen on this site who is respectably big/strong have argued against that. If no one who is limiting themselves to 50g protein/meal is getting big, that’s all the science I need to make my decision.
I’m not arguing with you guys, if that’s true then that makes my life easier (being able to take in more protein in one sitting). I started lifting in 10th grade (10 years ago) so I guess I have a lot of the locker room urban legend facts still stuck in my head.
I have gotten over 100gr of protein in one sitting for sure. I am guessing overfeeds like that are why I made the progress I did.
Most of the people who seem to now be against “6 meals a day” are not what I would call “huge” bodybuilders…and I really don’t see the point in degrading that strategy considering all of the guys with really big arms who went that way.
I eat as often I need to…which was the real point behind making teenagers in the 80’s and 90’s understand how important those calories are.
I don’t see people growing faster by denying it now. I really don’t.
I’ll also say, if you are way under 200lbs, then of course you may not need 6 meals a day…because your overall caloric need is smaller. Do most of you really think the average guy weighing in excess of 230lbs mostly muscle will feel comfortable eating that way unless you aren’t counting protein drinks?
The ONLY reason I eat less now is because of the protein from this site. I am drinking that all day…so you could really say, I probably pass up “6 meals” if you want to get specific.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I eat as often I need to…[/quote]
^^^I think this thread could be summed up in one sentence.
My original post wasn’t meant to be anti-6-meals; I merely wanted to point out that it’s not the only option. I am by no means a big guy (and with a pretty serious heart condition I never will be), but when I was eating 6-7 times a day, I was never full and was putting on more fat than muscle. Eating a few bigger meals feels better for me since I get to indulge my gluttonous habits. If I could afford the amount of MAG-10 people seem to down around here, I would probably pulse feast every day just to enjoy 2000+ calorie feedings.
Best troll post ever. He’s mentioned almost all the debunked myths verbatim.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]John Mclane wrote:
Thing is, if someone needs 250-300mg of protein a day, then 6 meals - with 50mg of protein per sitting = 300 grams od protein - seems the way to go for me, especially as it would be hard for the body to take/digest more than 50gms of protein a day at any one time, or am I wrong?[/quote]
Digesting is a process spanning hours. I don’t know what you mean by digesting something “at one time”.
Right now I’m only eating 2 real meals a day.[/quote]
That’s good. How do you look as a result? How fast are you growing?
I would still be 150lbs only eating twice a day from the start.[/quote]
Slowly, leaning out right now and looking better than I was. I’m still getting in 3000-3500 calories.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]John Mclane wrote:
Thing is, if someone needs 250-300mg of protein a day, then 6 meals - with 50mg of protein per sitting = 300 grams od protein - seems the way to go for me, especially as it would be hard for the body to take/digest more than 50gms of protein a day at any one time, or am I wrong?[/quote]
Digesting is a process spanning hours. I don’t know what you mean by digesting something “at one time”.
Right now I’m only eating 2 real meals a day.[/quote]
That’s good. How do you look as a result? How fast are you growing?
I would still be 150lbs only eating twice a day from the start.[/quote]
Slowly, leaning out right now and looking better than I was. I’m still getting in 3000-3500 calories.[/quote]
What do some of your meals compose of?
Sometimes i have 1lb of hamburger with 1 dozen eggs, just for breakfast washed down with whole milk.
I also like putting a whole pound of hamburger on a tortino pizza then baking it, lots of calories lol.
[quote]K-Man32 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]John Mclane wrote:
Thing is, if someone needs 250-300mg of protein a day, then 6 meals - with 50mg of protein per sitting = 300 grams od protein - seems the way to go for me, especially as it would be hard for the body to take/digest more than 50gms of protein a day at any one time, or am I wrong?[/quote]
Digesting is a process spanning hours. I don’t know what you mean by digesting something “at one time”.
Right now I’m only eating 2 real meals a day.[/quote]
That’s good. How do you look as a result? How fast are you growing?
I would still be 150lbs only eating twice a day from the start.[/quote]
Slowly, leaning out right now and looking better than I was. I’m still getting in 3000-3500 calories.[/quote]
What do some of your meals compose of?
Sometimes i have 1lb of hamburger with 1 dozen eggs, just for breakfast washed down with whole milk.
I also like putting a whole pound of hamburger on a tortino pizza then baking it, lots of calories lol.[/quote]
My secrete is a blender. I’ll do shakes with meals instead of a regular beverage. It’s like 2 meals at once.
Something like 10 eggs with veggies and cheese (or a bunch of meat) + a big shake (30 ounces-ish) with whole milk, Greek yogurt, fruit, nut oil, and more eggs.
I just ate 1/2 pound of hamburger, veggies, potatoes, rice, some peanut butter, and some chicken with a glass of milk for my 1 o’clock meal.
1200 Calories in a sitting with 100+ grams of protein is pretty easy in my book.
Yesterday for me was 3 meals and topped 5000cals all “clean” food no ice cream or anything along those lines and no liquid calories eigher. All from oatmeal, rice, greek yogurt, and lots of meat. no problem and i could eat more so if people are saying it cant be done eating lots of cals in few meals they have a small stomach. whcih in that case eat more meals.
It comes down to preference and being able to EAT FOR YOUR OWN GOALS.
[quote]zraw wrote:
To continue with this, some people can get food down easily, some cant… There is no way I could get my needed calories if I didnt eat “smaller” portions every 2-3hours instead of having 2-3 big meals… I have a hard time getting 60g of proteins from chicken in just one sitting, I dont even want to think about getting 120g of proteins from chickin in one sitting…
For people not having a hard time getting the food down, sure, no problemo amigo
For people having a harder time with it, its easier to forcefeed over several meals, and it will make you feel less shitty[/quote]
You’re telling me you couldn’t sit down and eat 13.5 oz of roasted chicken breast in one meal? That’s 120 grams of protein. Hell, when I roast a turkey for the family, I can’t keep myself from nibbling at it after we eat and I’m carving off meat for leftovers.
I eat 10 ounces of chicken breast or pork tenderloin or steak in one sitting easily. Along with an 8 ounce baked potato and then 8-10 ounces of fruit. That’s one meal. Add in fish oil and 2 hard boiled eggs and that’s easily 1200 calories in one sitting. I can easily eat 2400 cals in 2 meals. Need more, have some peanut butter or increase the amount of meat, add more butter to the potato, etc.