On another forum, a fellow recently posted this:
"Load a bar with a light weight you can easily clean and then strict press for 5 reps, rest for a minute or 2 then add weight (5 or 10 pounds depending on your strength levels)and do another set.
Repeat this process, resting and adding weight until you cant clean and strict press the weight for 5 solid reps, then clean and push press the weight. Keep adding weight until you cant clean and push press the weight for 5 good reps. At this point drop the presses and continue to clean the weight for 5 reps, when the weight gets too heavy for you to clean, move onto high pulls for 5 reps. When the weight gets too heavy to explosively lift and high pull, start deadlifting the weight for 5 reps.
Keep adding weight until you cant get the 5 reps in, now move the rep range down to heavy doubles and keep doing this until you cant lift the bar anymore."
I’ve done it and it seems to ‘work’. My appetite incrased, I"m getting stronger, etc.
I was wondering if anybody knew anything about the history of this routine, where it comes from, that sort of thing?
I’m doing running and bodyweight exercises in the mornings and running this routine 2-3 times per week. I’m thinking of just running it once per week and doing a heavier routine on another day- going for a single on the clean and push press, then backing off a bit.
If you are doing that workout every week, much less threw times a week, I hope you enjoy taking all of the dollars out of your wallet and giving them to a doctor/ortho specialist.
It may have been something he made up. I was interested as it seems to be along the lines of old-schol peary rader style stuff. Maybe I should ignore him and do something else? The poster claimed that the routine was ‘time proven’ and also that he was an advanced lifter.
Sorry, I thought I was posting in ‘beginners’. Must have posted it here accidentally.
[quote]Der_Steppenwolfe wrote:
It may have been something he made up. I was interested as it seems to be along the lines of old-schol peary rader style stuff. Maybe I should ignore him and do something else?[/quote]
I don’t remember seeing that particular routine, but it looks similar to what John McCallum (in the '60s) called “progressive pulls” - Do cleans ramping up to a heavy set of 3, then move right into high pulls up to a heavy set of 3, then into deads up to a heavy set of 3, then right into deadlift singles. It’s brutal and I can’t really imagine doing the clean and press and clean and push press in the same series before all that.
The basic idea isn’t new. Like I said, it’s been around at least since the 1960s, and it’s basically what Charles Staley just wrote about in his “Exercise Stacking” article the other day here, but there are definitely smart ways and dumb ways to use the technique. What your buddy suggested, I’d respectfully label “the dumb way.” I wouldn’t expect most people to survive it more than once or twice a week (don’t plan on training any other days), and even then for 4 or 6 weeks tops. It a ridiculous level of overkill.
Uh-huh. My B.S. flag is waving pretty high on this one without pics and/or more info about the guy giving the advice and more info on the results he’s seen others get from this plan. But whatever.