[quote]Varqanir wrote:
The site doesn’t mention this, but “Doctor Leo Szilard” is, of course, an anagram of “lizards credo tool,” an obvious reference to the fact that the scientist was, in fact, sent by the reptilian overlords to implement their sinister belief system.
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so, the obvious question is this: would it be justified, or overtly racist to nuke the reptilian overlords?
Mikeyali,
If they were beaten that badly by the end of the war, why 2 atomic bombs? How come one didn’t do the job?
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
But Gkhan, we had already won the war. Japan was decimated by the time we’d taken Okinawa. They were no threat to anyone.
mike
Don’t know how true this is, but:
Japan developed and successfully tested an atomic bomb three days prior to the end of the war.
http://www.reformation.org/atlanta-constitution.html[/quote]
Is it true they were experimenting in biologic and chemical warfare and they attempted to unleash biological weapons on California?
Possibly later I can research and see what I can find out about this.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Varqanir wrote:
The site doesn’t mention this, but “Doctor Leo Szilard” is, of course, an anagram of “lizards credo tool,” an obvious reference to the fact that the scientist was, in fact, sent by the reptilian overlords to implement their sinister belief system.
so, the obvious question is this: would it be justified, or overtly racist to nuke the reptilian overlords?[/quote]
Don’t know, but I imagine it’d be fun.
I hear reptilian shape-shifters pop like popcorn when you incinerate them.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Chushin wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
But Gkhan, we had already won the war. Japan was decimated by the time we’d taken Okinawa. They were no threat to anyone.
mike
Don’t know how true this is, but:
Japan developed and successfully tested an atomic bomb three days prior to the end of the war.
http://www.reformation.org/atlanta-constitution.html
Is it true they were experimenting in biologic and chemical warfare and they attempted to unleash biological weapons on California?
Possibly later I can research and see what I can find out about this.
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They did experiment, I think mainly with Anthrax.
They even had a Mengele.
I think they used Asian POWs. Or maybe some civilians.
Special Japanese military units conducted experiments on civilians and POWs in China. One of the most infamous was Unit 731 under ShirÅ? Ishii. Victims were subjected to vivisection without anesthesia, amputations, and were used to test biological weapons, among other experiments. Anesthesia was not used because it was believed to affect results.
To determine the treatment of frostbite, prisoners were taken outside in freezing weather and left with exposed arms, periodically drenched with water until frozen solid. The arm was later amputated; the doctor would repeat the process on the victimâ??s upper arm to the shoulder. After both arms were gone, the doctors moved on to the legs until only a head and torso remained. The victim was then used for plague and pathogens experiments.[24]
According to GlobalSecurity.org, the experiments carried out by Unit 731 alone caused 3,000 deaths.[25] Furthermore, according to the 2002 International Symposium on the Crimes of Bacteriological Warfare, the number of people killed by the Imperial Japanese Army germ warfare and human experiments is around 580,000.[26] According to other sources, “tens of thousands, and perhaps as many as 400,000, Chinese died of bubonic plague, cholera, anthrax and other diseases…”, resulting from the use of biological warfare.[27]
One of the most notorious cases of human experimentation occurred in Japan itself. At least nine out of 12 crew members survived the crash of a U.S. Army Air Forces B-29 bomber on KyÅ«shÅ«, on May 5, 1945. (This plane was Lt. Marvin Watkins’ crew of the 29th Bomb Group of the 6th Bomb Squadron.[28]). The bomber’s commander was sent to Tokyo for interrogation, while the other survivors were taken to the anatomy department of Kyushu University, at Fukuoka, where they were subjected to vivisection or killed.[29] On March 11, 1948, 30 people including several doctors were brought to trial by the Allied war crimes tribunal. Charges of cannibalism were dropped, but 23 people were found guilty of vivisection or wrongful removal of body parts. Five were sentenced to death, four to life imprisonment, and the rest to shorter terms. In 1950, the military governor of Japan, General Douglas MacArthur, commuted all of the death sentences and significantly reduced most of the prison terms. All of those convicted in relation to the university vivisection were free by 1958.[citation needed]
In 2006, former IJN medical officer Akira Makino stated that he was orderedâ??as part of his trainingâ??to carry out vivisection on about 30 civilian prisoners in the Philippines between December 1944 and February 1945.[30] The surgery included amputations.[31] Ken Yuasa, a former military doctor in China, has also admitted to similar incidents he was compelled to participate in.[32]
My heavens, Orion. That Shiro Ishii fellow sounds like a real monster. I’m sure that once the Americans occupied Japan, he was apprehended, and prosecuted as a war criminal, right?
I mean, a great man like General Douglas MacArthur would never have let a madman like that walk free.
Would he?
Explicitly limpid?
Hahahahahahaha!
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
My heavens, Orion. That Shiro Ishii fellow sounds like a real monster. I’m sure that once the Americans occupied Japan, he was apprehended, and prosecuted as a war criminal, right?
I mean, a great man like General Douglas MacArthur would never have let a madman like that walk free.
Would he?[/quote]
Oh my goodness, monster, madman, really Varqanir i wouldn’t expect you to be trotting out 60 year old propaganda.
He was a missunderstood man, a reasonable man, a fine fellow as the brits would say, one who to this day who is still not understood, he was under the yoke of colonial imperialism and suffered from the blockade and don’t you know America committed atrocities as well, blah fucking blah.
I just want Orion to tell me what happened to General Ishii, who he previously described as “the Japanese Dr. Mengele.” I just want to be reassured that the Americans strung him up from the nearest gibbet shortly after convicting him at the Tokyo War Crimes trials.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
I just want Orion to tell me what happened to General Ishii, who he previously described as “the Japanese Dr. Mengele.” I just want to be reassured that the Americans strung him up from the nearest gibbet shortly after convicting him at the Tokyo War Crimes trials.[/quote]
I am sure that America went to great lengths to destroy his work like they destroyed Mengeles for nobody would want to profit from such terrible crimes.
Just imagine, in some alternate universe they might even have made follow up experiments on people who they drafted into service.
In this world however people who made vivisections on live human beings were punished like their crimes demanded it.
Kind off.
If they didn’t so what? Many German war criminals were not executed. Kurt Franz was sentenced to life and died in 1998. Franz Stangl also died in a German prison of old age. I bet if they caught Mengele, they would have strung him up.
The Jews kept Nazi atrocities stories alive, prosecuting and executing war criminals like Eichmann.
The Chinese did not do this possibly because they were caught up in the Maoist and Cultural revolutions.
Still to this day the Japanese will not apologise or admit the full extent of atrocities done to the Chinese.
No dinner and no tv!
They were not even allowed to go to the prom even though they already had the dress and a date!
Americans are truly foreign devils.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
I just want Orion to tell me what happened to General Ishii, who he previously described as “the Japanese Dr. Mengele.” I just want to be reassured that the Americans strung him up from the nearest gibbet shortly after convicting him at the Tokyo War Crimes trials.[/quote]
He retired in Maryland, after giving us info on bio weapons? To the victor go the spoils, I guess you’d say… Too bad all them scientists in the European theater got snatched by them ruskies.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Mikeyali,
If they were beaten that badly by the end of the war, why 2 atomic bombs? How come one didn’t do the job?[/quote]
I think if Kantaro Suzuki hadn’t used the word Mokusatsu in his press statement and had avoided being so ambiguous, then the second bombing probably wouldn’t have happened.
Who groans beneath the Hiroshima Curse,
and strangles in the strings of purse,
before she mends must sicken worse.
Her living mouth will breed blue flies,
and maggots creep about her eyes.
No man shall mark the day she dies.
[quote]Therizza wrote:
Varqanir wrote:
He retired in Maryland, after giving us info on bio weapons? [/quote]
Very close.
He retired in Tokyo, after giving MacArthur a 10,000 page dossier on all of his research (including vivisections of American POWs), and giving lectures at Fort Detrick (which is indeed in Maryland) to help us develop our own bio-weapons program.
One of General Ishii’s more imaginative plans: send a couple of kamikaze pilots to California carrying vials of bubonic plague-infected fleas.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
One of General Ishii’s more imaginative plans: send a couple of kamikaze pilots to California carrying vials of bubonic plague-infected fleas. [/quote]
Which would have justified us using weapons of mass destruction in a pre-emptive strike. 1945 Bush doctrine right there. lol