I find it fascinating that you like to rip on someone with an illness. Is this part of the the Socialist philosophy of life? I know Hitler was a Socialist and like to kill off those who weren’t blessed by ‘Aryan purity’, who saw illness as a weakness, but aren’t you above that sort of thing?
First of all, I have asthma. My brother has asthma. It ain’t the end of the world.
Secondly, my point is it’s easy to talk about going to war and make fun of others when you know you’ll never go yourself.
There’s a difference between wanting to help defend your country and cowering in a pleasant life that SOMEONE ELSE makes possible. It truly hurts that someone else has to do my fighting for me.
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I am crying crocodile tears for you Ol’ Big Wheazy.
[quote]Marmadogg wrote:
There’s a difference between wanting to help defend your country and cowering in a pleasant life that SOMEONE ELSE makes possible. It truly hurts that someone else has to do my fighting for me.
I am crying crocodile tears for you Ol’ Big Wheazy.[/quote]
Hiding out in Jersey, screwin’ the pooch, eh, Mama Dog?
[quote]Hack Wilson wrote:
I think the debate of a candidate’s military experience is usually one of the most overblown aspects of any campaign. The fiasco with Bush and Kerry this last go 'round was as bad as it gets.
You had the ‘Rather documents’ you had the ‘Swift Boat Veterans’. It seemed to never end and, in the end, it amounted to nothing. I don’t think many people - with exception of active military - rely on this aspect of candidates resume.
But because it is always made such an issue of, candidates over-hype what they have done. In many, many cases they just out-and-out lie. Often, the lie is not exposed for many years.
If someone had the balls to do something great under fire, in battle, I think that’s great. Give them a check mark in the ‘plus’ column. But not everyone get’s that opportunity. Not everyone had the chance. Not everyone has that hard-wired as part of the content of their character, either.
I don’t think that should invalidate years of public service and otherwise distinguished achievement. These are politicians, not warriors. Having an understanding of current adn past policy and the nature of diplomacy is key. Having been in a foxhole can give you an insight. But it’s not what I’m looking for on my president’s resume. [/quote]
I hate to say it, but I agree.
And Headhunter, to put it plainly, I don’t believe it hurts you one bit. Sorry.
[quote]Hack Wilson wrote:
I think the debate of a candidate’s military experience is usually one of the most overblown aspects of any campaign. The fiasco with Bush and Kerry this last go 'round was as bad as it gets.
You had the ‘Rather documents’ you had the ‘Swift Boat Veterans’. It seemed to never end and, in the end, it amounted to nothing. I don’t think many people - with exception of active military - rely on this aspect of candidates resume.
But because it is always made such an issue of, candidates over-hype what they have done. In many, many cases they just out-and-out lie. Often, the lie is not exposed for many years.
If someone had the balls to do something great under fire, in battle, I think that’s great. Give them a check mark in the ‘plus’ column. But not everyone get’s that opportunity. Not everyone had the chance. Not everyone has that hard-wired as part of the content of their character, either.
I don’t think that should invalidate years of public service and otherwise distinguished achievement. These are politicians, not warriors. Having an understanding of current adn past policy and the nature of diplomacy is key. Having been in a foxhole can give you an insight. But it’s not what I’m looking for on my president’s resume. [/quote]
Good point Hack.
Linclon never served in the military.
Franklin Roosevelt never served in the military.
Harry Truman never served in the military.
Each led the country during a time of war. All capable leaders and well respected.
It’s time we put this one to bed. It doesn’t matter who served and who didn’t serve.
He also tried to disband the Marine Corps, which would have seriously screwed with Hillary’s plan to join.
(see, I tied it all in to the thread topic.)
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I don’t think that should invalidate years of public service and otherwise distinguished achievement. These are politicians, not warriors. Having an understanding of current adn past policy and the nature of diplomacy is key. Having been in a foxhole can give you an insight. But it’s not what I’m looking for on my president’s resume.
I hate to say it, but I agree.
And Headhunter, to put it plainly, I don’t believe it hurts you one bit. Sorry.[/quote]
You’re free to believe what you want. I love my country deeply and what she stands for. The men and women who defend what I value as priceless are noble people. It truly does break my heart that they have to protect me, that I am too old (and do have asthma) to join them. Believe what you will. Someone else is protecting you while you smoke dope, booze it up on the weekends, while trying to hit on the cashiers at the ‘Garden Center’. You dishonor those magnificent people.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Believe what you will. Someone else is protecting you while you smoke dope, booze it up on the weekends, while trying to hit on the cashiers at the ‘Garden Center’. You dishonor those magnificent people.
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Man, that sounds pretty close to what some of my military friends do when they are back in town and not defending the good old US of A.
And in the other corner we have “I’m loosing 2 wars at once and I went AWOL” Bush,
And the veteran war hero Cheney.
And Rummy.
Both fought bravely, well, they would have if they hadn’t had other priorities.
[quote]Ren wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Believe what you will. Someone else is protecting you while you smoke dope, booze it up on the weekends, while trying to hit on the cashiers at the ‘Garden Center’. You dishonor those magnificent people.
Man, that sounds pretty close to what some of my military friends do when they are back in town and not defending the good old US of A. [/quote]
They’ve earned it. Have you? You are an immigrant. America is about being the best you can be, and being free to do so. Are you doing that? Or are you smoking dope and being a male slut with any stray female who happens along?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Ren wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Believe what you will. Someone else is protecting you while you smoke dope, booze it up on the weekends, while trying to hit on the cashiers at the ‘Garden Center’. You dishonor those magnificent people.
Man, that sounds pretty close to what some of my military friends do when they are back in town and not defending the good old US of A.
They’ve earned it. Have you? You are an immigrant. America is about being the best you can be, and being free to do so. Are you doing that? Or are you smoking dope and being a male slut with any stray female who happens along?
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Hahaha. Man, you have a hangup with “smoking dope”. Hate to tell you, but I don’t do it…and being a “male slut” is called “youth”. Maybe you missed out on it, but it ain’t my fault there’s sheep instead of women in Ohio.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Hate to tell you, but I don’t do it…and being a “male slut” is called “youth”. Maybe you missed out on it, but it ain’t my fault there’s sheep instead of women in Ohio.[/quote]
