Cmmoonn, can someone look at that bloodwork, is the estrogen level scary? Should I start gobbling arimidex down like candy and crash it haha?
Those threads crack me up, " I felt like I was having high E2 sides so I took 1mg of Arimidex, the next morning I still felt like crap so I took another mg, then later in the day another mg"
Its only a number. Are you experiencing symptoms?
I would take a look at your hematocrit. Oil might be running a bit rich. Go donate a pint or 2.
My pre cycle hematocrit was 45.8, however it is this lab that has 51 as the upper limit, a quick Google search puts the upper limit at 54%
Take 5mg adex per day for the next two weeks. Just to be safe I would add 50mg aromasin as well. Kill that woman growing inside of you or become like Katelyn Jenner.
But seriously, it’s a little high and if you’re feeling some side effects then that’s the right time to take an AI. Just don’t overdo it and you’ll be fine.
Hahaha.
Ok, with E2 that high can I take .5? The pills are fucking tiny I don’t know how I would cut it in quarters
I wouldn’t just yet. Try to do a quarter first. It’s really powerful stuff and if .25mg does t work you can increase. But once you’ve started higher it’s hard to get your e2 back up if it’s crashed.
Thanks again for the great advice.
I just took as close as I could get to a quarter after sawing it with a serrated kitchen knife, I threw the rest away it was a dusty mess.
Might need to invest in a pill cutter.
So if I don’t feel anything after 5 minutes I’ll take 10mgs
My caber pills were pretty small. I was taking 0.25 so I would snap the pill in half for .5 then just bite the .5 in half again. I don’t know how small your pills are in comparison, but might be worth thinking about
Wish I had ordered more test but you know this is a learning process. Had originally only planned to do 8 weeks however with the low to no sides I wanted to extend it to 10. Even though I ran out on the first shot of week 9 on Monday and today is Friday I just left the gym and had my best workout yet, hit a new 1 rep max on bench 240.
I took the .25 of arimidex + a shot of 500iu hcg on Wednesday, was it placebo? I swear the HCG made me feel more positive and energetic like 10 minutes after the shot.
My sleep has been a lot better since the arimidex, coincidence?
Coming to the end of week 2 since last shot.
I haven’t been sick all year and not even close to being sick while on cycle but these last few days I have a really bad wheezing , phlegm coughing cold.
Is that pretty common to get sick while coming off?
Probably a coincidence. I haven’t heard of people getting sick because they came off.
Thanks for the reply. Could be a coincidence I figured maybe the sudden drop in test might also lower immune function as well.
Iron yuppie anybody, I like to do my reading and research and I’ve been reading a lot of conflicting estimates on when PCT should be run.
Everyone here has said 2 weeks after the last shot, which is what I was going to do.
There are a lot of threads and literature saying to wait 3 or more weeks or until total test reaches zero, their reasoning being that if PCT is started while exogenous test is still present and you’re still shut down , then taking nolva will further suppress you.
BS?
Not BS at all. Well, the Nolva being suppressive part is BS. But waiting longer? Totally reasonable. Most guys start at two weeks because most guys start at two weeks. That’s just what we (I, everyone really) tells guys. But it’s not optimal. It works, but it’s not optimal. Look on here for a thread about “test taper”. @Singhbuilder has been on this bandwagon for a while and I have to say that his way makes significantly more sense. But it takes longer, and we all want everything now, dammit. But I think waiting longer—three weeks should do it for cypionate or enanthate esters—is better than two.
I have read about test taper and it DOES make tons of sense…instead of injecting a substantial amount of hormones and then just, bam, turning off the spigget cold turkey is super abrupt. Must be a shock to all the stuff that regulates the hormones.
I’m supposed to start tomorrow, but I don’t feel horrible yet haha, still have a high libido and super intense morning wood.
One more week it is then.
@iron_yuppie hit the nail on the head. Most people start at 2 weeks because they’re bro’s. I used to start at 2 weeks when I used to PCT and then used to wonder why I havent recovered and lost all my gains. It isnt until I tried the test taper the magic happened. I dont PCT anymore thank god but when I come off, I will definitely being using the stasis/taper method.
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Singhbuilder, thanks for stopping by my first cycle thread!
If you don’t mind can you post a link to the exact method you follow, I just searched for “stasis/taper”
and a ton of topics came up.
It’s too late for me to taper now as I’ve been off for 2 weeks, I’m going to go ahead with the standard PCT protocol for this cycle to see how it works for me.
So , if 2 weeks never worked for you did you ever try longer periods before starting?
I never tried to wait it out longer and do a conventional PCT because I just started to blast and cruise after becoming sick of crashing so hard after every cycle.
I used the test taper/stasis to come off a 13 month blast and recovered great hence why I’m a believer. I dont think its required unless you are attempting a restart after cruising but for conventional PCT’s we do need to look into longer clearance times. @paulnash
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I don’t have the gear to taper anyway so I’ll just wait for more clearance before starting PCT.
For sure I have a long way to go or it certainly feels like it now, I’m now on 16 days since last pin and Im still getting random erections like a teenager and feel positive and energetic. Also my balls have been twitching the past couple of days, is that them trying to wake up haha?
To he honest, the best I felt was about 1 week after coming off, having test at 2185 was pretty intense.
So…will I ever crash?? Haha. It’s been 3 weeks now since my last jab of test and I’ve been feeling just fine all this time.
Does the hard crash affect some people but not others? Is it genetics? Do some people eliminate the exogenous test faster while others hold onto it for longer?
I still have great erections, positive attitude, can lift almost as heavy as weak 8 and 9 of the cycle, sure the weights feel heavier but I can still lift way heavier than I could pre cycle .
I’m going to start pct tomorrow, hopefully nolvadex doesn’t crash my good mood