Thanks appreciate it. New to this site have to look for other thread. If I follow the pct all should be good?
Thanks iron. So if a 10 weeks cycle when start Hcg and when the nolvadex? All of this is post cycle?
I read some use during the cycle and also add armidex. Your take on that?
Iron is saying that the chances of it working out after PCT for you are not good. I agree with him. Young guys are often unsuccessful with a proper PCT after Tren. It is super suppressive.
It sounds like you are dead set on using it. Try the PCT, but be prepared for the possibility of needing to do TRT. IMO, at your age, TRT with light blasts (4-500 mg test and another mild compound perhaps) would work a lot better than a heavy cycle / blast with PCT.
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I don’t understand this mindset. The mix is cheap as shit. Throw it away and pick up the proper compounds for an older gent getting his feet wet again.
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I think we are seeing stubbornness due to a sunk cost fallacy. Now I don’t think in this case it is cost in a monetary sense, as that would be easily identifiable as the aforementioned fallacy. I think it is due to the cost in the effort (finding a reputable vendor, dealing with bitcoins, legal issues) to procure AAS. Perhaps someone gave him this mix, and getting something else is new territory (assumed high cost). However, this assumed high cost in effort to get something suitable is irrelevant because the Tren mix is already a loss.
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Ok I understand what your saying and really respect it. I know you know more but I have a friend who uses this few years older and loves the results and doesn’t even do a pct never has an issue. I myself rather get more advice and have always done PCT in the past. Just been so long.
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Just keep in mind we are all different animals. There are guys who lift weight natty and look 10x better than some of us using anabolics. There are guys who can low dose and blow up and guys who never PCT. However, this is ATYPICAL. I wouldn’t base your expectations on a singular experience. On this board we tend to be proactive, moderate users, who limit risk. We are only looking out for you my friend. I’m sure you will get results from it… the after is what concerns me and others.
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I see that what you all do in your responses why I joined here.
So to refer back correctly to iron’s response which I entirely misunderstood. The pct might not work at all? Even if I did hcg nolvadex ?
Well theres potential. Some literature shows the metabolites stay in your body for a very very long time. Thats probably why you hear of guys with long standing issues on 19-nor like nandrolone/tren. Still, does this affect your hormones to the point a PCT won’t work? Probably for some but that seems like the minority. If you’re not on TRT you should 100% try a PCT. For a lack of better words… ‘Why not?’
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I know it’s a late reply, but people should stop spreading missinformation.
Trenbolone is detected in the body 6 months after last injection, this does not mean it is active, but it’s metabolite epitrenbolone remains in trace amounts in the body. epitrenbolone is largely inactive and won’t cause high suppression of HPTA to the point it nullifies PCT.
Some people are dumb and try 19 nor, but you shouldn’t scare them off PCT or provide missinformation.
Now when using Tren in high amounts and for long period of times, permanent damage can and will occur, Tren shuts you down pretty hard that’s why people should avoid it, and in case of using it to never exceed few weeks.