Sorry lemme rephrase. What is the evidence you have seen that you believe strongly enough in to hope someone you don’t know dies?
Damon and Affleck are dick-licking buddies (do kids still use that phrase anymore?).
Whatever Affleck knows about Hollywood, Damon knows.
full disclosure: I have no dog (pun intended) in this interwebz discussion.
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Word of a reporter vs word of an actor really. One plays pretend for a living…
We have a word of a reporter that he (and Russel Crow) called this low level, “fairly new” reporter to talk about a story. He admits that HW asked him to call, so that means HW knew this story was about what it was about. So he had one of his lap dogs call up and lie to the reporter? Why? And my favorite part “it didn’t even make the piece that she wrote”, lmao, because obviously they were sweating the report…
Yes I’m triggered, yes I’m being emotional and irrational, and I largely don’t care.
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Gotcha. Have a good 'un.
This is like Bill Cosby all over again, more and more stories keep coming out. A couple you can deny as vengeance or money, but the victim list keeps growing. That’s an awful lot of smoke if there ain’t no fire.
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I’ve calmed down a little here and want to address the “metoo” hashtag that has risen from these ashes…
While people’s hearts may very well be in the right place, this whole hashtag is unbelievably bad, on quite a few levels, but I’ll keep it to a few main ones:
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It includes sexual harassment with abuse and rape… I’m not big on capital punishment, but nothing brings out the barbarian in me more than discussing what punishment is fit for a rapist. A bullet in the skull is far too humane and they should be dragged into the middle of the street, and beaten in the most inhumane and painful way possible. While harassment is bad, and should be addressed and stopped, It doesn’t belong in the same conversation as abuse and rape.
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Encouraging survivors to “come out” publicly without having made sure these poor people have done the work necessary with professionals to be able to do that, is not only irresponsible it is downright evil.
I know people like to joke about SJW’s needing “safe spaces” and being “triggered” but those words come from trauma therapy and have real, grave implications for those who suffer from trauma related injuries. Social media is NOT a safe space by any measure, and you can never unsay what was said.
The amount of survivors that cried themselves to sleep the last couple nights, and have now re-traumatized themselves and created a trigger in facebook, twitter and likely the device they use to browse them is a hell of a lot higher post hashtag and pre.
We really need to quite it with this hashtag activism horseshit. In this instance, we’ve risked the emotional wellbeing of millions, taken the focus off the assholes in Hollywood that need to hang for this, and made it about “the evil patriarchy and rape culture”.
The fact mental health professionals aren’t screaming this from the rooftops is a fucking embarrassment to their profession, and our society in general if they got wrapped up in identity politics rather than quality care for survivors.
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Preach Brother! Well said, clear and articulate. Kudos!
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Agreeing with you a bit @countingbeans. Also, I was thinking about @Silyak’s earlier comments, too.
About the #MeToo thing. It’s a problem for me to see sexual harassment conflated with sexual assault. What constitutes harassment can be sooo minor and subjective.
Let’s say an inept attempt to ask someone out that the woman found “creepy” or unwanted is classified as harrassment. To put those fairly minor things in the same category with rape trivializes the women who have experienced real violence.
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I don’t think their hearts are in the right place at all. What the hashtag should say is lookatmetoo. It’s also just another way to make men believe that they are deservedly considered rapists and sexual predators. Not only that, it makes women believe that they are not guilty of the same behaviors.
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Yep. I have a life long attention whore/dumpster slut on my facebook raving from the rooftops about how she has been abused.
One woman did call her on that shit though, which is really refreshing.
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If you happen to be a Third Wave feminist who has been preaching the identity politics of “toxic masculinity” this #MeToo thing is the best thing that’s ever happened for that cause. Also, I sometime wonder about creating peer pressure or a social hysteria, where people now come forward with some past offense that they once saw as a minor incident. I’m talking about minor things here, and often not in the work place. Not to trivialize victims of serious sexual assault and rape, or harassment of the kind Weinstein was into, at all.
I listened to the NYPD audio of him, and I think that sicko got off on having women afraid of him. If his case shines a light real abusers, then that’s great.
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What about the opposite? I once had two girls approach me at work, where I was a manager, with a ruler asking me how big I am. I told my manager (a woman), she just asked if they brought a yard stick or a 1’ ruler.
#metoo
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Wow. I’m surprised your manager didn’t give them some kind of reprimand.
I read that some men are posting about their experiences, with mixed results. Some women are supportive, and others want it to be a woman’s movement thing. Obviously, it’s going to happen to men too.
I keep thinking about a couple of my female friends who work for big 5 accounting firms, and travel with men all the time. Go do an audit in another city for a few days, everybody in hotels. I’m glad that I never had to work in that kind of situation. Not because I think most men are toxic, or likely to be abusers. I just think it would be tempting for people in that situation to not cross a line.
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I’m not surprised. Look at how schools treat male and female teachers with regard to how they may behave with students. There is a clear double standard.
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@dchris - I think most of us see this kind of thing as WAY worse when it’s happening at work. Even WORSE if the person is in a position of authority over you.
If you met a couple of drunk girls at a party and they did that as some kind of drunk flirting, it seems less serious to most people. I would guess. That has me wondering about how many of the #MeToo people are taking about the workplace.
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This has been my experience with many ‘movements’. It’s not about the actual problem, it’s about how the problem affects a minority.
Tbh, If it happened outside of work I wouldn’t of had a problem with it; they were both attractive, so it wasn’t a creepy thing. It’s too forward for my preference though. It was more an uncomfortable thing, as I was working, busy and extremely caught off guard.
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Yeah. I would guess that nearly every person here would have some memory, outside of the workplace, where someone did something that could be described as sexual harassment. Some unwanted comment or touch. I was thinking of a male friend of mine in college who mooned me as a joke. It was funny. I wasn’t offended. But that would have gone down differently if it was my BOSS at WORK! Ha.
I was just thinking about the sexual assault cases on college campuses. There are some really garbage statistics on that, that get quoted a lot. BUT I was thinking of the fact that the vast majority of the cases involve both people drinking. The drunk man is still responsible for sexual assault, even though NEITHER party can legally consent to sex if intoxicated. It’s a bit of a weird thing. He will still be responsible, and can be charged, even though they were both drunk and so NEITHER could consent.
Is it just me, or does everyone else also think that Weinstein looks exactly like to kind of guy to do this?
The kind of power/money/influence that some guys have (cough cough our president) can sometimes make them think that they can do whatever they want to anyone they want. Very disturbing.
It makes me wonder what Harvey’s parents would say to him. I have a feeling they didn’t raise him to treat talented and/or beautiful individuals like that. I can’t wait until more women start coming forward and exposing people like Weinstein.
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He’s a creeper.
Your comment reminded me of that SNL skit about sexual harassment with Tom Brady and Fred Armisen. The main advice is “be attractive.” It’s very, very funny. Unfortunately I can’t find a good link to it that will work at the moment. I wish SNL would just let their skits be on youtube.
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When in doubt about finding a video that the source doesn’t want you to have, always default to your local computer nerd.
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