DB…I see you have given this subject matter some considerable thought lol.
Fat grown-ups, whatever…fat kids is where it grinds my gears but that’s another topic.
I did catch a little fattest loser families and one family in particuler was happy as clams. I mean really fuckin’ happy and by all accounts fun to be around, I was jealous actually.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Overeaters are a drain on our environment with their laissez-faire attitude toward the well-being of this lovely planet and country.
Think about it. They eat way too much food. It requires more agriculture to sustain their eating habits than is necessary, and farming is one of the largest sources of pollution in the country and by far the largest source of water pollution. If fat people would just eat when they need to and not when they want to, there wouldn't be as large a demand for agriculture and we could lessen the damage farming does to the environment. Plus, they are notorious for eating fast food and other prepared foods that use excessive packaging. Cut the greasy foods out of their diet and these fast food chains that create vast amounts of garbage won't create quite as much.
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You could use this same argument against bodybuilders 
Being fat doesn’t mean you CAN’T be happy, it just makes you less likely to be IMHO.
It’s like any other factors in life. Having a decent amount of money, a good looking face/body, good friends you can trust, a hobby (or hobbies) you enjoy in your spare time, HAVING spare time, believing in a religion/faith and living accordingly, treating other human beings well…these are all factors that make a person more likely to be happy, like it or not.
But just because one of them isn’t there doesn’t ruin a human’s chance at happiness once and for all. It also depends on how much importance they place on each factor.
^^^ I agree with most of this…
Except
[quote]therajraj wrote:
^^^ I agree with most of this…
Except
I disagree. I’ve been an atheist since 8 years old. Lack of religion never affected my state of mind. Actually, god and religion DON’T EVEN OCCUR to me on a daily basis unless these topics are brought up in conversation, as they are here.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
^^^ I agree with most of this…
Except
I disagree. I’ve been an atheist since 8 years old. Lack of religion never affected my state of mind. Actually, god and religion DON’T EVEN OCCUR to me on a daily basis unless these topics are brought up in conversation, as they are here. [/quote]
Maybe my post wasn’t clear, but I subtracting believing in a religion has and adding a satisfied sex/love life… so you agree with me 
And for some reason, nearly everyone (or what seems like EVERYONE) on this board fails to realize is that
%99.9… of the world doesn’t give a shit! That is, they don’t give a rat’s ass about having some great physique; to be thrilled by some dream man/woman; ambition; getting rich or wealthy; big muscles and athleticism; optimal health; or whatever!
Therefore, they are far less susceptible to shit like disappointment, discontent, dissatisfaction, failure, rejection, sadness, or whatever other negative shit you can thing of that goes hand in hand with constantly trying to reach higher and higher and having “standards” and being “picky”.
There are people who eat dinners on snack trays every night and who they are or what they do DOESN’T FUCKING OCCUR to them. And I say hats off to them, because this world would be utterly ridiculous and more dog-eat-dog than it already is if everyone was so god damn ambitious… and “goal-oriented”… “success oriented” and “go-getting”… and “driven”… and (insert any other jackassy, ambiguous self help bullshit term you can think of).
I just can’t sometimes seem to grasp at the lack of worldliness demonstrated on this board some time. From this communication, one would think we lived in a world of drop dead gorgeous, athletic, intellectually gifted, and driven super men and women.
I really don’t know where the fuck everyone on this board lives, but if any of you live in such an area where only human marvels live, let me know about it; I’ll stop by.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
^^^ I agree with most of this…
Except
I disagree. I’ve been an atheist since 8 years old. Lack of religion never affected my state of mind. Actually, god and religion DON’T EVEN OCCUR to me on a daily basis unless these topics are brought up in conversation, as they are here. [/quote]
Maybe my post wasn’t clear, but I subtracting believing in a religion has and adding a satisfied sex/love life… so you agree with me :P[/quote]
Having romantic love is very important.
To figure out the question, you’d have to look at motivations not just body fat. If someone is heavy because they are overeating as a maladaptive coping mechanism then chances are they’re just as miserable as the person who starves themself or works out obsessively as a maladaptive coping mechanism. If they eat a ‘normal’ diet and move their ass a ‘normal’ amount and the cause of the extra weight is a medical issue (hormonal imbalance), then sure, I suppose they could be as happy as anyone else… IF they didn’t buy into society’s definition of attractive, IF they had no real sexual desires, IF they weren’t so overweight that their daily life was impacted (not fitting into chairs, body aches, etc) and IF they had the love and support of their family/friends. The real question is what’s driving them to be fat.
That’s my attitude, do what ever makes you happy…I don’t know any fat people who want to stay that way, but there has to be some people out there who don’t mind being fat…
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Overeaters are a drain on our environment with their laissez-faire attitude toward the well-being of this lovely planet and country.
Think about it. They eat way too much food. It requires more agriculture to sustain their eating habits than is necessary, and farming is one of the largest sources of pollution in the country and by far the largest source of water pollution. If fat people would just eat when they need to and not when they want to, there wouldn't be as large a demand for agriculture and we could lessen the damage farming does to the environment. Plus, they are notorious for eating fast food and other prepared foods that use excessive packaging. Cut the greasy foods out of their diet and these fast food chains that create vast amounts of garbage won't create quite as much.
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You could use this same argument against bodybuilders ;)[/quote]
Fuck you
DBCooper is an hardcore guy
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I hate to say it (actually, I love saying it), but fat people are the bane of society. Fatties are wrecking our environment and our economy. Fat fucks consume more than they need and they should be ashamed of themselves and their destructive behavior. Overeaters are a drain on our environment with their laissez-faire attitude toward the well-being of this lovely planet and country.
Think about it. They eat way too much food. It requires more agriculture to sustain their eating habits than is necessary, and farming is one of the largest sources of pollution in the country and by far the largest source of water pollution. If fat people would just eat when they need to and not when they want to, there wouldn't be as large a demand for agriculture and we could lessen the damage farming does to the environment. Plus, they are notorious for eating fast food and other prepared foods that use excessive packaging. Cut the greasy foods out of their diet and these fast food chains that create vast amounts of garbage won't create quite as much.
Fat-asses invariably require more clothing to cover their grotesque bodies than trim, fit people like ourselves. If these fat-asses would get to the gym once in a while or place their refrigerator as far from their couch as possible, and then run to the frig whenever they get hungry, they'd spend most of their time running back and forth in their house and would eventually lose weight. A loss of weight results in less surface area which results in less clothing needed which results in less clothing production. Less clothing factories means less pollution as well.
This brings me to another point. The human body puts out about 55 BTU's per hour. The differences from person to person is determined by the body's surface area. Rotund butterballs, with more surface area than they really need, put out more BTU's than they should be, thereby contributing to global warming.
Because human blimps invariably eat more than they need to, their bowel movements are consequentially larger and occur with more frequency than people who keep their eating in check. Sewage waste is a large source of pollution, as is the methane gas that inevitably occurs with more regularity when people eat fatty, starchy foods containing an over-abundance of simple carbohydrates. They also generally tend to spend less time outdoors getting exercise than environmentally-sound, slender people do. When these butterballs sit indoors, they use more electricity than people enjoying the great outdoors do.
When they find the energy to go outside, they rarely walk or bike anywhere, as evidenced by their rotund physiques. They drive their cars, and regardless of what type of car it is, it gets less gas mileage than it would if they were not fat. These weighed-down cars also do more damage to the roads, which our tax dollars pay to repair. Overweight people have a much higher rate of diabetes than normal-sized people and as a result, there are more used syringes to dispose of than there should be.
Fat people are also a drain on the healthcare system. Their fat-clogged arteries put them at a drastically higher risk of heart problems, joint and ligament problems and other health-related issues. So what do we, as a society, do about this?
It's simple: fat people should be eliminated through a highly aggressive taxation policy that will force them into a more sustainable lifestyle. Societal rejection and ridicule of their lifestyles should be highly encouraged and they should be treated much like people with leprosy, tuberculosis and red hair.
Are fat people truly happy? Why wouldn't they be? They live a life of wholesale excess at the expense of the environment and the rest of society. They should be put in huge fucking cages and paraded through the streets like the grotesque spectacle that they are before being thrown in the Gulf of Mexico. Perhaps their fat fucking carcasses could be used to feed the dwindling blue whale population.
Or perhaps we should just physically assault them to satisfy our own base instincts. So the question is: have you slit a fatty's fucking throat today? If not, what's stopping you?[/quote]
You do know that most people on this site that are serious eat more than the regular fat person in this world?
And stop being a damn fascist, it would do your health best by minding your own business and stop judging others for their faults.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
This brings me to another point. The human body puts out about 55 BTU's per hour. The differences from person to person is determined by the body's surface area. Rotund butterballs, with more surface area than they really need, put out more BTU's than they should be, thereby contributing to global warming.
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I thought this was sarcasm at first but I have to say that I believe that this point is invalid. I think its safe to say fat people spend much of their time indoors probably sitting on a coach or eating or something. The heat given off by them would be used to heat the inside of a building, therefore, lessening the power output of the heating system. (say an oil furnace which contributes more to global warming than any fat person). I think this is beside the point anyway because I doubt that human heat output is a significant contributer to global warming.
[quote]colin1168 wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
This brings me to another point. The human body puts out about 55 BTU's per hour. The differences from person to person is determined by the body's surface area. Rotund butterballs, with more surface area than they really need, put out more BTU's than they should be, thereby contributing to global warming.
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I thought this was sarcasm at first but I have to say that I believe that this point is invalid. I think its safe to say fat people spend much of their time indoors probably sitting on a coach or eating or something. The heat given off by them would be used to heat the inside of a building, therefore, lessening the power output of the heating system. (say an oil furnace which contributes more to global warming than any fat person). I think this is beside the point anyway because I doubt that human heat output is a significant contributer to global warming.
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Also there are a lot of skinny fuckers who smoke a LOT. Which would have more effect on the environment and cost more than fat people.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Overeaters are a drain on our environment with their laissez-faire attitude toward the well-being of this lovely planet and country.
Think about it. They eat way too much food. It requires more agriculture to sustain their eating habits than is necessary, and farming is one of the largest sources of pollution in the country and by far the largest source of water pollution. If fat people would just eat when they need to and not when they want to, there wouldn't be as large a demand for agriculture and we could lessen the damage farming does to the environment. Plus, they are notorious for eating fast food and other prepared foods that use excessive packaging. Cut the greasy foods out of their diet and these fast food chains that create vast amounts of garbage won't create quite as much.
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You could use this same argument against bodybuilders ;)[/quote]
Fuck you[/quote]
May I be next? I’m sure it’ll be an angry fuck, too.
Jesus Christ. Do you people have no ability whatsoever to detect a tongue-in-cheek, sarcastic post? Have your senses of humor completely abandoned you? When I said Fuck You it was in jest. As for the serious evaluations of the validity of my argument, keep in mind that this whole post was an attempt at humor.
Perhaps my sense of humor is a little…atypical, but come on. It’s not so far off the wall that it flew completely over your heads is it? Or was it simply so lacking in humor that you found everything I said absolutely ridiculous? Obviously fat people and serious weightlifters both consume more than what is necessary to live. Obviously the BTU output of the human body is not a contributing factor to global warming. I would have expected such a reaction from the '10ers, or even some of my fellow ‘09ers, but not you stalwarts of T-Nation who have been around for several years. I don’t if my post was a major fail or if your guys’ responses are the fails.
And to Brother Chris, who called me a fascist: do you even know what fascism is?