Guys From Japan, Saline Head Implants?

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Maybe in Harajuku. This weird, sad manifestation of insecurity is certainly not anything I’ve seen in my 10 years here.

To be honest, I’ve personally seen a whole lot more weird shit at any given location in the US than I have here. [/quote]

Like?? I am from LA and have seen weird stuff but, Japan has some of the weirdest/disturbing sub-cultures out there.[/quote]

Just one example. And yes, I’ve seen plenty of these pathetic cases personally. Known a couple, in fact.

https://www.google.com/search?q=split+tongue&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=s0BkUITmEc7wmAWjl4GIDg&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=619

*Edit. Fair warning: Many of the pictures contained in the link are a good bit worse than what’s been posted so far. Some are pretty disgusting. Most are just sad. [/quote]

Split tongue has nothing on getting a saline bag put in your forehead. Lol

A split tongue will heal its self pretty quick anyway.[/quote]

Not true. Tongue splitting, properly done, is a permanent modification. Surgery is required for reversal.

http://www.infoplasticsurgery.com/facial/tongue-splitting/

If you are uncertain about having this procedure, then you are advised NOT to have it. But what if you are certain you want it now, only to find out 5 or 10 years from now that you wish you hadn�?�¢??t done it? As it turns out, this procedure is reversible. Your surgeon can perform an operation in which he or she removes the healed mucosa on the inside of the fork and then suture the halves back together.

The saline bags are not bags at all. Just straight saline injections. They quickly deflate as the liquid disperses harmlessly into the body.

[i]Here’s how it goes down: technicians insert a needle into the forehead and inject about 400 cc of saline to create a forehead-sized blob. (One bagel-ee describes is as feeling like “something’s dripping down [his] head” and a “slight stinging sensation.”) The practitioner then places his or her thumb into the blob to create the indentation.

…

Luckily, the bagel-shaped injections aren’t permanent; the round protusion fades after about sixteen hours as your body absorbs the saline. [/i]
[/quote]

You’re talking to a dude who lives in the goth and shock scene. I’ve seen people split the tongues for all sorts of events and a few weeks later they’re fine.

They will heal on their own. No one with a forked tongue wants one forever. Just the odd occasion where it may fir with a theme.

[/quote]

Word. Although, I do know a few people who have had it for years. Even if permanent I don’t think it’s weirder than this bagel head crap.

Friend of mine with split tongue.

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LOL…when I look at these pics, all I see is this:

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[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Maybe in Harajuku. This weird, sad manifestation of insecurity is certainly not anything I’ve seen in my 10 years here.

To be honest, I’ve personally seen a whole lot more weird shit at any given location in the US than I have here. [/quote]

Like?? I am from LA and have seen weird stuff but, Japan has some of the weirdest/disturbing sub-cultures out there.[/quote]

Just one example. And yes, I’ve seen plenty of these pathetic cases personally. Known a couple, in fact.

https://www.google.com/search?q=split+tongue&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=s0BkUITmEc7wmAWjl4GIDg&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=619

*Edit. Fair warning: Many of the pictures contained in the link are a good bit worse than what’s been posted so far. Some are pretty disgusting. Most are just sad. [/quote]

Split tongue has nothing on getting a saline bag put in your forehead. Lol

A split tongue will heal its self pretty quick anyway.[/quote]

Not true. Tongue splitting, properly done, is a permanent modification. Surgery is required for reversal.

http://www.infoplasticsurgery.com/facial/tongue-splitting/

If you are uncertain about having this procedure, then you are advised NOT to have it. But what if you are certain you want it now, only to find out 5 or 10 years from now that you wish you hadn�??�?�¢??t done it? As it turns out, this procedure is reversible. Your surgeon can perform an operation in which he or she removes the healed mucosa on the inside of the fork and then suture the halves back together.

The saline bags are not bags at all. Just straight saline injections. They quickly deflate as the liquid disperses harmlessly into the body.

[i]Here’s how it goes down: technicians insert a needle into the forehead and inject about 400 cc of saline to create a forehead-sized blob. (One bagel-ee describes is as feeling like “something’s dripping down [his] head” and a “slight stinging sensation.”) The practitioner then places his or her thumb into the blob to create the indentation.

…

Luckily, the bagel-shaped injections aren’t permanent; the round protusion fades after about sixteen hours as your body absorbs the saline. [/i]
[/quote]

You’re talking to a dude who lives in the goth and shock scene. I’ve seen people split the tongues for all sorts of events and a few weeks later they’re fine.

They will heal on their own. No one with a forked tongue wants one forever. Just the odd occasion where it may fir with a theme.

[/quote]

Word. Although, I do know a few people who have had it for years. Even if permanent I don’t think it’s weirder than this bagel head crap.

Friend of mine with split tongue.
[/quote]

Those blowjays are amazing. You experienced?

And yea dude split tongue NOWHERE near that bagel thing. Not comparable in any way.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaa

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I think people that pierce all various parts of their bodies and get lots of tattoos and get other rare body modifications are incredibly open-minded and not afraid to try new, different things that many of us would be scared to do because many of us are, we must admit, prudish and old-fashioned and can’t expand our minds to grasp new ideas.
They truly are courageous, intelligent, independent and unique.

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[quote]Nards wrote:
I think people that pierce all various parts of their bodies and get lots of tattoos and get other rare body modifications are incredibly open-minded and not afraid to try new, different things that many of us would be scared to do because many of us are, we must admit, prudish and old-fashioned and can’t expand our minds to grasp new ideas.
They truly are courageous, intelligent, independent and unique.[/quote]

Yer. But why?

tweet

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…can’t tell if Nards is trolling or serious…

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Trust your instincts Jedi.

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Maybe in Harajuku. This weird, sad manifestation of insecurity is certainly not anything I’ve seen in my 10 years here.

To be honest, I’ve personally seen a whole lot more weird shit at any given location in the US than I have here. [/quote]

Like?? I am from LA and have seen weird stuff but, Japan has some of the weirdest/disturbing sub-cultures out there.[/quote]

Just one example. And yes, I’ve seen plenty of these pathetic cases personally. Known a couple, in fact.

https://www.google.com/search?q=split+tongue&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=s0BkUITmEc7wmAWjl4GIDg&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=619

*Edit. Fair warning: Many of the pictures contained in the link are a good bit worse than what’s been posted so far. Some are pretty disgusting. Most are just sad. [/quote]

Split tongue has nothing on getting a saline bag put in your forehead. Lol

A split tongue will heal its self pretty quick anyway.[/quote]

Not true. Tongue splitting, properly done, is a permanent modification. Surgery is required for reversal.

http://www.infoplasticsurgery.com/facial/tongue-splitting/

If you are uncertain about having this procedure, then you are advised NOT to have it. But what if you are certain you want it now, only to find out 5 or 10 years from now that you wish you hadn�??�??�??�?�¢??t done it? As it turns out, this procedure is reversible. Your surgeon can perform an operation in which he or she removes the healed mucosa on the inside of the fork and then suture the halves back together.

The saline bags are not bags at all. Just straight saline injections. They quickly deflate as the liquid disperses harmlessly into the body.

[i]Here’s how it goes down: technicians insert a needle into the forehead and inject about 400 cc of saline to create a forehead-sized blob. (One bagel-ee describes is as feeling like “something’s dripping down [his] head” and a “slight stinging sensation.”) The practitioner then places his or her thumb into the blob to create the indentation.

…

Luckily, the bagel-shaped injections aren’t permanent; the round protusion fades after about sixteen hours as your body absorbs the saline. [/i]
[/quote]

You’re talking to a dude who lives in the goth and shock scene. I’ve seen people split the tongues for all sorts of events and a few weeks later they’re fine.

They will heal on their own. No one with a forked tongue wants one forever. Just the odd occasion where it may fir with a theme.

[/quote]

Word. Although, I do know a few people who have had it for years. Even if permanent I don’t think it’s weirder than this bagel head crap.

Friend of mine with split tongue.
[/quote]

Those blowjays are amazing. You experienced?

And yea dude split tongue NOWHERE near that bagel thing. Not comparable in any way.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaa[/quote]

Yes… mind blowing.

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[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Maybe in Harajuku. This weird, sad manifestation of insecurity is certainly not anything I’ve seen in my 10 years here.

To be honest, I’ve personally seen a whole lot more weird shit at any given location in the US than I have here. [/quote]

Like?? I am from LA and have seen weird stuff but, Japan has some of the weirdest/disturbing sub-cultures out there.[/quote]

Just one example. And yes, I’ve seen plenty of these pathetic cases personally. Known a couple, in fact.

https://www.google.com/search?q=split+tongue&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=s0BkUITmEc7wmAWjl4GIDg&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=619

*Edit. Fair warning: Many of the pictures contained in the link are a good bit worse than what’s been posted so far. Some are pretty disgusting. Most are just sad. [/quote]

Split tongue has nothing on getting a saline bag put in your forehead. Lol

A split tongue will heal its self pretty quick anyway.[/quote]

Not true. Tongue splitting, properly done, is a permanent modification. Surgery is required for reversal.

http://www.infoplasticsurgery.com/facial/tongue-splitting/

If you are uncertain about having this procedure, then you are advised NOT to have it. But what if you are certain you want it now, only to find out 5 or 10 years from now that you wish you hadn�??�??�??�??�?�¢??t done it? As it turns out, this procedure is reversible. Your surgeon can perform an operation in which he or she removes the healed mucosa on the inside of the fork and then suture the halves back together.

The saline bags are not bags at all. Just straight saline injections. They quickly deflate as the liquid disperses harmlessly into the body.

[i]Here’s how it goes down: technicians insert a needle into the forehead and inject about 400 cc of saline to create a forehead-sized blob. (One bagel-ee describes is as feeling like “something’s dripping down [his] head” and a “slight stinging sensation.”) The practitioner then places his or her thumb into the blob to create the indentation.

…

Luckily, the bagel-shaped injections aren’t permanent; the round protusion fades after about sixteen hours as your body absorbs the saline. [/i]
[/quote]

You’re talking to a dude who lives in the goth and shock scene. I’ve seen people split the tongues for all sorts of events and a few weeks later they’re fine.

They will heal on their own. No one with a forked tongue wants one forever. Just the odd occasion where it may fir with a theme.

[/quote]

Word. Although, I do know a few people who have had it for years. Even if permanent I don’t think it’s weirder than this bagel head crap.

Friend of mine with split tongue.
[/quote]

Those blowjays are amazing. You experienced?

And yea dude split tongue NOWHERE near that bagel thing. Not comparable in any way.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaa[/quote]

Yes… mind blowing.
[/quote]

The things these normal people will never get to feel. I pity them really.

I remember at a disturbed show once…

Over and under at the same time…

I nearly passed out.

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[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Whoever thinks America has more fucked up sub-cultures than Japan hasn’t come across a vending machine that dispenses school girl piss to paying punters.

In Japan.[/quote]

School girl piss? Really? Used, women’s underwear, yes. I’ve seen that. Never seen piss available from a vending machine unless you count Calpis.

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[quote]postholedigger wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Whoever thinks America has more fucked up sub-cultures than Japan hasn’t come across a vending machine that dispenses school girl piss to paying punters.

In Japan.[/quote]

School girl piss? Really? Used, women’s underwear, yes. I’ve seen that. Never seen piss available from a vending machine unless you count Calpis.[/quote]

Godamnit one time I bought a bottle of that Japanese school girl piss but I swear to God it tasted just normal piss, likely from some guy in the factory. What a fucking rip off.

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[quote]Nards wrote:

[quote]postholedigger wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Whoever thinks America has more fucked up sub-cultures than Japan hasn’t come across a vending machine that dispenses school girl piss to paying punters.

In Japan.[/quote]

School girl piss? Really? Used, women’s underwear, yes. I’ve seen that. Never seen piss available from a vending machine unless you count Calpis.[/quote]

Godamnit one time I bought a bottle of that Japanese school girl piss but I swear to God it tasted just normal piss, likely from some guy in the factory. What a fucking rip off.
[/quote]

That would be an ideal job; sitting around all day in a greasy wife-beater drinking beer and pissing into little containters to restock the vending machine.

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[quote]groo wrote:
Is this shit for real? This is the new body modification trend going on? Saline bags in the forehead?

[photo]37551[/photo][/quote]

How did you find a picture of me and my brother in law??!?

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Maybe in Harajuku. This weird, sad manifestation of insecurity is certainly not anything I’ve seen in my 10 years here.

To be honest, I’ve personally seen a whole lot more weird shit at any given location in the US than I have here. [/quote]

Like?? I am from LA and have seen weird stuff but, Japan has some of the weirdest/disturbing sub-cultures out there.[/quote]

Just one example. And yes, I’ve seen plenty of these pathetic cases personally. Known a couple, in fact.

https://www.google.com/search?q=split+tongue&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=s0BkUITmEc7wmAWjl4GIDg&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=619

*Edit. Fair warning: Many of the pictures contained in the link are a good bit worse than what’s been posted so far. Some are pretty disgusting. Most are just sad. [/quote]

Split tongue has nothing on getting a saline bag put in your forehead. Lol

A split tongue will heal its self pretty quick anyway.[/quote]

Not true. Tongue splitting, properly done, is a permanent modification. Surgery is required for reversal.

http://www.infoplasticsurgery.com/facial/tongue-splitting/

If you are uncertain about having this procedure, then you are advised NOT to have it. But what if you are certain you want it now, only to find out 5 or 10 years from now that you wish you hadn�?�¢??t done it? As it turns out, this procedure is reversible. Your surgeon can perform an operation in which he or she removes the healed mucosa on the inside of the fork and then suture the halves back together.

The saline bags are not bags at all. Just straight saline injections. They quickly deflate as the liquid disperses harmlessly into the body.

[i]Here’s how it goes down: technicians insert a needle into the forehead and inject about 400 cc of saline to create a forehead-sized blob. (One bagel-ee describes is as feeling like “something’s dripping down [his] head” and a “slight stinging sensation.”) The practitioner then places his or her thumb into the blob to create the indentation.

…

Luckily, the bagel-shaped injections aren’t permanent; the round protusion fades after about sixteen hours as your body absorbs the saline. [/i]
[/quote]

You’re talking to a dude who lives in the goth and shock scene. I’ve seen people split the tongues for all sorts of events and a few weeks later they’re fine.

They will heal on their own. No one with a forked tongue wants one forever. Just the odd occasion where it may fir with a theme.

[/quote]

Classic interwebz.

I post a link and quote from a board certified plastic surgeon who performs these procedures, you counter with street cred. I even added the parenthetical “properly done” because I knew this was next.

Okay, I’m sure that shittily performed hack surgeries tend not to “take” and in those cases the tongue does grow back together. Not sure how that makes it any less disturbing.

Have you watched a video of an actual tongue splitting procedure? Did you watch the huffpost vid in the link I posted? One is invasive surgery involving bisection of one of the most important muscles in the human body. The other is a bolus of saline under the skin. That’s it. I could perform the latter procedure on myself right now if I had an IV drip. I have all of the other necessary materials on-hand in my desk drawer beside me. I wouldn’t dream of saying the same thing about the former.

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I think people who’ve never visited Japan often don’t realize that it is one of the most conservative places on earth. From politics, to family and community values, to social and gender roles, to, most certainly and perhaps even most of all, personal attire.

Sure, there is a small subset of real weirdos here, and a number of people who, if transported directly to the US would stand out at a Lollapalooza concert, but the vast, VAST majority of the people in this country are modest to a fault, rigidly conformist, and actually do everything they can to avoid undue attention.

You cannot even join a commercial gym if you have a visible tattoo. Chushin will back me up on this.

I repeat, there are more weird things to be seen at any given place in the USA than you will find at any equivalent location in Japan.

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Just like biting your tongue. But with a razor.

[/quote]

Uh-huh.

*Edited

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[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Maybe in Harajuku. This weird, sad manifestation of insecurity is certainly not anything I’ve seen in my 10 years here.

To be honest, I’ve personally seen a whole lot more weird shit at any given location in the US than I have here. [/quote]

Like?? I am from LA and have seen weird stuff but, Japan has some of the weirdest/disturbing sub-cultures out there.[/quote]

Just one example. And yes, I’ve seen plenty of these pathetic cases personally. Known a couple, in fact.

https://www.google.com/search?q=split+tongue&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=s0BkUITmEc7wmAWjl4GIDg&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=619

*Edit. Fair warning: Many of the pictures contained in the link are a good bit worse than what’s been posted so far. Some are pretty disgusting. Most are just sad. [/quote]

Split tongue has nothing on getting a saline bag put in your forehead. Lol

A split tongue will heal its self pretty quick anyway.[/quote]

Not true. Tongue splitting, properly done, is a permanent modification. Surgery is required for reversal.

http://www.infoplasticsurgery.com/facial/tongue-splitting/

If you are uncertain about having this procedure, then you are advised NOT to have it. But what if you are certain you want it now, only to find out 5 or 10 years from now that you wish you hadn�??�?�¢??t done it? As it turns out, this procedure is reversible. Your surgeon can perform an operation in which he or she removes the healed mucosa on the inside of the fork and then suture the halves back together.

The saline bags are not bags at all. Just straight saline injections. They quickly deflate as the liquid disperses harmlessly into the body.

[i]Here’s how it goes down: technicians insert a needle into the forehead and inject about 400 cc of saline to create a forehead-sized blob. (One bagel-ee describes is as feeling like “something’s dripping down [his] head” and a “slight stinging sensation.”) The practitioner then places his or her thumb into the blob to create the indentation.

…

Luckily, the bagel-shaped injections aren’t permanent; the round protusion fades after about sixteen hours as your body absorbs the saline. [/i]
[/quote]

You’re talking to a dude who lives in the goth and shock scene. I’ve seen people split the tongues for all sorts of events and a few weeks later they’re fine.

They will heal on their own. No one with a forked tongue wants one forever. Just the odd occasion where it may fir with a theme.

[/quote]

Classic interwebz.

I post a link and quote from a board certified plastic surgeon who performs these procedures, you counter with street cred. I even added the parenthetical “properly done” because I knew this was next.

Okay, I’m sure that shittily performed hack surgeries tend not to “take” and in those cases the tongue does grow back together. Not sure how that makes it any less disturbing.

Have you watched a video of an actual tongue splitting procedure? Did you watch the huffpost vid in the link I posted? One is invasive surgery involving bisection of one of the most important muscles in the human body. The other is a bolus of saline under the skin. That’s it. I could perform the latter procedure on myself right now if I had an IV drip. I have all of the other necessary materials on-hand in my desk drawer beside me. I wouldn’t dream of saying the same thing about the former.
[/quote]

I was speaking more from an aesthetic point of view. I don’t care who your are or how good looking you are no one is pulling that off it looks like some sort of gross deformity. However, if you are speaking in regard to permanent/potential for complication I’ll give you that but, do you feel the same way about piercings, tattoos and all of cosmetic surgery?

When I said Japan has weird sub-cultures I meant things like Ganguro that shit is just disturbing to look at. Sure they can clean themselves up but, that is no excuse. Of course it is just a sub-culture it is not like it is widespread at least I hope not.

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[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Maybe in Harajuku. This weird, sad manifestation of insecurity is certainly not anything I’ve seen in my 10 years here.

To be honest, I’ve personally seen a whole lot more weird shit at any given location in the US than I have here. [/quote]

Like?? I am from LA and have seen weird stuff but, Japan has some of the weirdest/disturbing sub-cultures out there.[/quote]

Just one example. And yes, I’ve seen plenty of these pathetic cases personally. Known a couple, in fact.

https://www.google.com/search?q=split+tongue&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=s0BkUITmEc7wmAWjl4GIDg&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=619

*Edit. Fair warning: Many of the pictures contained in the link are a good bit worse than what’s been posted so far. Some are pretty disgusting. Most are just sad. [/quote]

Split tongue has nothing on getting a saline bag put in your forehead. Lol

A split tongue will heal its self pretty quick anyway.[/quote]

Not true. Tongue splitting, properly done, is a permanent modification. Surgery is required for reversal.

http://www.infoplasticsurgery.com/facial/tongue-splitting/

If you are uncertain about having this procedure, then you are advised NOT to have it. But what if you are certain you want it now, only to find out 5 or 10 years from now that you wish you hadn�??�??�?�¢??t done it? As it turns out, this procedure is reversible. Your surgeon can perform an operation in which he or she removes the healed mucosa on the inside of the fork and then suture the halves back together.

The saline bags are not bags at all. Just straight saline injections. They quickly deflate as the liquid disperses harmlessly into the body.

[i]Here’s how it goes down: technicians insert a needle into the forehead and inject about 400 cc of saline to create a forehead-sized blob. (One bagel-ee describes is as feeling like “something’s dripping down [his] head” and a “slight stinging sensation.”) The practitioner then places his or her thumb into the blob to create the indentation.

…

Luckily, the bagel-shaped injections aren’t permanent; the round protusion fades after about sixteen hours as your body absorbs the saline. [/i]
[/quote]

You’re talking to a dude who lives in the goth and shock scene. I’ve seen people split the tongues for all sorts of events and a few weeks later they’re fine.

They will heal on their own. No one with a forked tongue wants one forever. Just the odd occasion where it may fir with a theme.

[/quote]

Classic interwebz.

I post a link and quote from a board certified plastic surgeon who performs these procedures, you counter with street cred. I even added the parenthetical “properly done” because I knew this was next.

Okay, I’m sure that shittily performed hack surgeries tend not to “take” and in those cases the tongue does grow back together. Not sure how that makes it any less disturbing.

Have you watched a video of an actual tongue splitting procedure? Did you watch the huffpost vid in the link I posted? One is invasive surgery involving bisection of one of the most important muscles in the human body. The other is a bolus of saline under the skin. That’s it. I could perform the latter procedure on myself right now if I had an IV drip. I have all of the other necessary materials on-hand in my desk drawer beside me. I wouldn’t dream of saying the same thing about the former.
[/quote]

I was speaking more from an aesthetic point of view. I don’t care who your are or how good looking you are no one is pulling that off it looks like some sort of gross deformity. However, if you are speaking in regard to permanent/potential for complication I’ll give you that but, do you feel the same way about piercings, tattoos and all of cosmetic surgery?

When I said Japan has weird sub-cultures I meant things like Ganguro that shit is just disturbing to look at. Sure they can clean themselves up but, that is no excuse. Of course it is just a sub-culture it is not like it is widespread at least I hope not. [/quote]

I have less argument with the above, see my quote about Japanese people before this.

There are not nearly so many weird or extreme people in Japan, they just do it with more class and imagination, which is probably why they get more press.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
You cannot even join a commercial gym if you have a visible tattoo. Chushin will back me up on this.

[/quote]

Back up duly provided.

And he does mean ANY tattoo.[/quote]

I spent about 4 years in Okinawa. It is even more conservative than Mainland Japan. The general public still associates tattoos with organized crime. They are getting more used to American’s with tattoos, but they are seldom seen on locals.
There are also many clubs, bars, etc that are “Japanese Only”.