However, in Texas at least, it’s still okay to beat Jesus to death with your bare hands.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
However, in Texas at least, it’s still okay to beat Jesus to death with your bare hands.
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lol, that’s a low blow. He caught dude raping his daughter? I don’t think he would have been charged if he used a garden hose. In MA? Sure, MA doesn’t like people who can help themselves. In TX? I’m pretty sure dude could have used a select fire rifle manufactured and held after 1986 and not a single charge would be filed, lol.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Oh boy, here we go.
NY Senator Who Pushed Gun Control, Now Pushing Machete Control
At least there’s consistency in his stance. I’d take that over restrictions based on meaningless cosmetic features or number of rounds fired per trigger pull. Give me a guy that wants to ban all possible weapons over a guy that wants to incrementally erode the right to self-ownership any day. Even the dense can tell what’s going on with the former.[/quote]
Whadafuk kinda consistency is that if we don’t ban shovels too?
Good point. Ban those too. Ban all possible weapons. Ban so much stuff that the dense can no longer say, “Well, I don’t want my neighbor to own…”
Obama to ban AR-15 ammunition by executive action.
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Obama to ban AR-15 ammunition by executive action.
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That does not bode well, especially inasmuch as the AR platform is so versatile it can be made to fire practically any calibre from .22LR to .50BMG.
A ban on “AR-15 ammunition” would, in effect, be a ban on ALL ammunition.
Mufasa
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
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I didn’t read that, because a) I know it is defending Obama, they always do and b) it wasn’t a direct Obama action. Closer to blame Holder if you wanted to pin it on a Democrat. In reality, it is more like than not gun owners fault.
In the end, it is irrelevant. Green tip as we know it is going away anyway, NATO is adopting a new round. The subsidized cheap 62 grains were going away either way. The 55 grains aren’t.
End of the day, people are acting like retards and buying all the 223/556 they can get their hands on right now. Thankfully, I got 500 rounds yesterday (didn’t really need it, but incase this panic lasts into the spring I want to be able to shoot this summer), and enough to load 1500 of my home brew. I can load at .12 cents a round or buy at 36-38 from brass cased…
If this site “defends” the President; it’s because of the absurdity of the “reports” that seem to come out about him on almost an hourly basis.
(The latest being his plans to shoot down Israeli Planes and go to War with Israel).
ANY President or public official should be taken to task and criticized…but this is getting beyond ridiculous.
Mufasa
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
If this site “defends” the President; it’s because of the absurdity of the “reports” that seem to come out about him on almost an hourly basis.
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BUsh was no different. Walker is getting skewered now, Christie and his bridge…
I mean, people shouldn’t be surprised with the current 24/7 twitter-ized news cycle.
In this instance, they should defend Bam. He didn’t issue a direct written directive to do this. Holder is the ATF ultimate boss though, and Holder answers to Obama.
In the end, like I said, this ban is more likely than not the fault of everyone that wrote a letter about “AR Pistols” to the ATF as a “fuck you then”. Because rather than challenge the Short Barreled Rifle rules, they worked around them, and the ATF said, “no, not anymore, get your fucking stamps”.
This ban is 100% political, and hilarious because the round losing its exemption is going away anyway, lol. I’ve been laughing about this freak out for awhile now. I laughed at a dude in the store yesterday. I had to cover up like I was laughing at my daughter instead.
From another forum, this guy explains it well
[i]The Government owns a small arms ammo manufacturing plant in Lake City Mo.
The Lake City Army Ammunition Plant is a government owned, contractor operated facility.
Lake City produces the majority of the M855 ammo used for the Military.
When the LC contractor manufactures ammo for the military, they produce the ammo in “lots” of thousands of rounds.
When a lot is ready, the contractor submits the lot for government inspection/acceptance.
The Gov inspectors take a sample number of rounds from that lot and inspects those rounds for specific tests/performance/dimensions/etc.
If the lot is accepted it goes into military inventory…never to be seen or sold again.
If it rejected, then the contractor has all that money tied up in rejected lot and sells it to the civilian sector .
This is the green tip we have been getting for years!
( This is also the reason why the “exception” for the M885 and 193 was originally written into the regulation… so the Gov could allow the contractor to sell off the ammo the government couldn’t/didn’t buy.)
Now that there is a new round… M855A1… into production, and the M855 is going out of production.
So less M855 production = less rejection= less M855 to the civilian market.
So in the near future…0 production = 0 rejection = 0 M855 to the civilian market.
Regardless of what the BATF does with its proposed changes, the M8555 is going away.
As for the M193…the M193 is the older version of 5.56 military ammo that is generally no longer in use in the US military but is still made by LC for non-NATO military use. [/i]
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
If this site “defends” the President; it’s because of the absurdity of the “reports” that seem to come out about him on almost an hourly basis.
(The latest being his plans to shoot down Israeli Planes and go to War with Israel).
ANY President or public official should be taken to task and criticized…but this is getting beyond ridiculous.
Mufasa [/quote]
Have to disagree.
Obama did what all presidents do, promise the world to get elected and then do what you want once you are elected. He talked mad shit about what we would do, and when people were skeptical, they were deemed racist. No, they were actually right. Obama was just smart enough to let the shit hit the fan after his reelection.
Obamacare ? Not the Shangri-La people were promised. The war in Iraq ? Al Qaeda was not quite decimated or on the run as we were told. That Cold War strategy that Bam teased Romney with in 2012 ? Turned out to be more accurate than those shovel ready jobs.
This president created his own shit storm, he is getting only a milder version of the blowback Bush got in '08. The media will not let the first black presidency go to waste under any circumstances.
“…a milder version of the blowback Bush got in '08…???”
Are you kidding, Max?
Mufasa
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“…a milder version of the blowback Bush got in '08…???”
Are you kidding, Max?
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No. Bush got to the point where he was better off not showing his face or saying a word. Have yet to hear pundits or comedians count the days until Obama is out of office or had shoes thrown at him. As of right now, Obama is not getting it nearly as bad as Bush did.