[quote]JayPierce wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
Let’s look at what a conspiracy would entail:
The children listed as killed–they had to be real kids. You can’t make up the names of children and then pretend that they’ve been living in a community and attending public school. You can’t bandy the names of fake children and their fake parents about the national airwaves without people in the community stopping and asking, “Wait, has anyone ever heard of these people before?”
So, what happened to the kids then? They’re going to be hidden forever? Going to have to assume new names and new identities? And, since the parents of the children can’t all get up and move away from the town at once, who’s going to be taking care of these children? Surely they aren’t going to be hidden in the basements of their old houses for decades?
What about all of the first responders. All paid off? Or were they tricked with fake blood and fake corpses? If the former: when were they notified of this? How were they notified? Would the planners and executors of one of the most daring cover-ups in American history call a bunch of local cops and EMT’s into a room and say, “hey guys, we’re going to be faking like two dozen deaths here in a month or two. Need you on board. Cool?”
What about the hundreds of neighbors and distant relatives interviewed in the aftermath? Were they in on it, or are they being duped like the rest of us? How is little Jane Doe going to be hidden from Uncle Bob for the rest of her life?
And most importantly: with this army of actors and fakers and bribe-takers, are we to believe that there isn’t a single one among them tempted by the notoriety that he or she would win by blowing the whistle? Not one who got drunk at a holiday party and found it impossible not to let on about an earth-shattering secret of national consequence?
Contending with the above we have the tinfoil-hat crowd–the guy who solved “Lost,” that is–and his bulletproof evidence: a little girl who shares clothing with her sister and a hysterical interviewee who laughed in a moment of grief.
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In case someone who is entertaining this “idea” wants to respond.[/quote]
It would only take a handful of actors. I could probably pull it off with the blue team, the red team, the ‘victims’, and the first responders, along with some supporting actors after the fact just for media coverage credibility. Care would have to be taken to suppress any pictures and videos of the scene, and to suppress the video from the school’s security system.
There is an article in the Newtown Bee containing an interview with the Newtown Volunteer Ambulance crew. One member of the crew noted that “they did everything but drive the truck for me back there” and “I’ve never seen anything like it. You’d think it was an exercise drill”.
http://newtownbee.com/News/News/2012/12-December/2012-12-20__18-52-18/Ambulance+Crew+Responded+To+Newtown’s+Best,+Worst+Moments+In+Recent+Days
And then you have the video of the Governor plainly stating that he and the Lieutenant Governor were “spoken to” about “something like this playing out in our state” that is all over the place.[/quote]
I’m not going to argue back and forth on something like this, but I will leave you with this: you’re spitting into a volcano and calling yourself a fireman. The breadth and depth of the evidence against you is staggeringly real, and in response you are hanging on minutiae like a vague sentence spoken at a rushed press conference and intended only to set up the old line about “you’re never prepared for something like this.”
Furthermore, you are casually shrugging most of my criticisms: who are the actors and how were they chosen? How were the first responders approached? How is their compliance assured? How is their silence going to be assured in the interminable future? Is it possible that dozens if not hundreds of fakers could be involved in a ruse of this devastating magnitude without a single one blowing the whistle or confiding in a big-mouthed spouse or friend? What happened to the kids who’ve supposedly died? Where are they? Who is caring for them? Will they be hidden forever more from their extended families? How? And how will the silence of a bunch of eight year old kids be assured?
I will suggest to you without intending to insult that your eagerness to believe that Sandy Hook was a hoax should disturb you somewhat. Tiribulus enjoys making the point that most of us go through life with a false sense of certainty; he is correct: we can’t truly be sure that Newtown was not a hoax, just as we can’t truly be sure that Abraham Lincoln was the 16th President of the United States and we can’t truly be sure that the Earth revolves around the sun. We can’t even prove that our lives have happened as we believe that they have.
But let’s set aside the inherent uncertainty of the human condition for a moment: Abraham Lincoln was the 16th President. The Earth revolves around the sun. And twenty children died by gunshot on December 14, 2012 in Newtown, CT. These are [i]the only[/i] conclusions that a rational human being can reach on the evidence available to him.
Anyone who refuses to believe those first two is crazy. Anyone who refuses to believe the last is both crazy and so lacking in compassion as to be nearly inhuman.