I am in contact every single day with military professionals from every branch, and every MOS you can think of. Spec Ops included. EVERYBODY is calling bullshit on this being ‘routine’ training!
So, I don’t know where you’re getting your information from, or what your purpose is, but your justification of black helicopters firing blanks from a fifty cal machine gun over heavy traffic is sickening.
Arrested for possession of AR-15 magazines, which were found during a ‘vehicle check’ (unlawful search and seizure, if he refused consent):
http://www.wwnytv.com/news/local/LeRay-Man-Faces-Weapons-Possessions-Charges-185853881.html
Same guy. This is the type of person having their God-given rights stripped from them by a Godless government hell-bent on punishing good people for the actions of a few homicidal maniacs, instead of getting rid of the maniacs:
[quote]b89 wrote:
Training facilities on a military base are necessary. However, something like training at an abandoned hotel in a heavily populated area like Miami, Florida isn’t going to be recreated on a base. It’s the same with something like Robin Sage, that can’t be recreated on a base.
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And flying missions in Turdjerkistan isn’t going to be recreated by training in Miami.
Did I hear this right ?
That Obama admits he enjoys skeet shooting all the time ?
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Did I hear this right ?
That Obama admits he enjoys skeet shooting all the time ?
Political stunt like Romney joining the NRA and his varmint hunting stories. Obama thinks it will be easier to disarm the populace if he portrays himself as gun friendly. He’ll probably release some photos of himself brandishing a shotgun in the next few days.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Did I hear this right ?
That Obama admits he enjoys skeet shooting all the time ?
That didn’t pass the ‘straight-face test’ either.
Agreed, I doubt very much that Obama has been heading up to the range to relax and fire off a few rounds all this time. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if he suddenly happened to do so, and there also happened to be a photographer around.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
Agreed, I doubt very much that Obama has been heading up to the range to relax and fire off a few rounds all this time. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if he suddenly happened to do so, and there also happened to be a photographer around.[/quote]
Doesn’t this type of thing make you skeptical of everything the govt does or says? I mean, they will clearly, bluntly, outright lie to your face. Sure some conspiracies are out there, but so much bullshit gets uncovered that it makes you think anything is possible. Lie after lie after lie, so of course people will think tower 7 was fishy, sandy hook could be staged, roswell, jfk… Now not all conspiracies are true, but we clearly see that the govt will lie their ass off, and even when caught, will lie even more. So what is a person to think? (btw, not attacking you SMH, just curious on your perspective)
Done and done. LOLOLOL!!
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/mag-pushes-fake-picture-obama-skeet-shooting_698730.html
EDIT: Forgot to mention; It’s a total fake!!
[quote]JayPierce wrote:
Done and done. LOLOLOL!!
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/mag-pushes-fake-picture-obama-skeet-shooting_698730.html
EDIT: Forgot to mention; It’s a total fake!![/quote]
The thought of this tool box with a gun reminds me fo those fail videos where the dude or chick gets knocked out by the recoil.
How sweet would that after picture be if a fly landed on his black eye?
I would lol at karma kicking his ass for lying.
I find it very interesting that so many ex-foreigners who have willingly become a part of our nation understand what it is to be a free American better than so many who have roots here.
[quote]JayPierce wrote:
I find it very interesting that so many ex-foreigners who have willingly become a part of our nation understand what it is to be a free American better than so many who have roots here.
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I’m going with, they know what color the grass is on the other side.
[quote]dk44 wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
Agreed, I doubt very much that Obama has been heading up to the range to relax and fire off a few rounds all this time. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if he suddenly happened to do so, and there also happened to be a photographer around.[/quote]
Doesn’t this type of thing make you skeptical of everything the govt does or says? I mean, they will clearly, bluntly, outright lie to your face. Sure some conspiracies are out there, but so much bullshit gets uncovered that it makes you think anything is possible. Lie after lie after lie, so of course people will think tower 7 was fishy, sandy hook could be staged, roswell, jfk… Now not all conspiracies are true, but we clearly see that the govt will lie their ass off, and even when caught, will lie even more. So what is a person to think? (btw, not attacking you SMH, just curious on your perspective)
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Well, there are two kinds of lies we’re talking about here: political “lies” and the sort of monstrous web of lies that would constitute something like a false-flag conspiracy (which Sandy Hook would sort of fit into, with the enemy being an idea rather than a nation).
When Mitt Romney says he hunts “varmint,” or Obama says he goes skeet shooting, or this or that politician pretends to love grits when he’s south of the Mason-Dixon line, he’s probably lying and almost definitely stretching the truth. But that’s the kind of lie we all tell here and there–“No honey, I don’t think my co-worker is attractive at all” kind of thing, or pretending you think NASCAR is cool because the guy conducting your job interview has a big Dale Earnhardt poster in his office.
Most importantly, these kinds of lies carry very little risk. Who’s to say Obama hasn’t gone to the range at Camp David once or twice? How is anybody going to prove he hasn’t? And even if it were proven, would anybody care? (Nobody really cared when Ryan lied about his marathon time, for example.)
A conspiracy, on the other hand, carries with it hundreds or thousands of potentially big-mouthed accomplices, innumerable liabilities, and the risk of losing literally everything–the office, the legacy, and even life as a free man if criminal charges are brought.
In other words, my default appraisal of politicos is that they are egotistical, greasy, and oftentimes highly venal people who are nevertheless well-intentioned. They are also averse to even the smallest risks; the thought of the typical politician gambling with his legacy and his life on one major, high-risk ruse is almost laughable.
It’s a long letter so I’ll only link to it rather than posting it http://sofrep.com/16644/1000-green-berets-sign-letter-of-support-for-2nd-amendment/ . Here’s the first paragraph: “We are current or former Army Reserve, National Guard, and active duty US Army Special Forces soldiers (Green Berets). We have all taken an oath to ??support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.?? The Constitution of the United States is without a doubt the single greatest document in the history of mankind, codifying the fundamental principle of governmental power and authority being derived from and granted through the consent of the governed. Our Constitution established a system of governance that preserves, protects, and holds sacrosanct the individual rights and primacy of the governed as well as providing for the explicit protection of the governed from governmental tyranny and/or oppression. We have witnessed the insidious and iniquitous effects of tyranny and oppression on people all over the world. We and our forebears have embodied and personified our organizational motto, De Oppresso Liber [To Free the Oppressed], for more than a half century as we have fought, shed blood, and died in the pursuit of freedom for the oppressed.”.
I just can’t equate Obama saying he shoots skeets, which is an obvious ploy to act like he is all about guns and really isn’t trying to shred the 2nd amend, to telling your wife she doesn’t look fat in that dress. I realize there are different levels of lies, but how can you trust a govt that has MKULTRA, operation northwoods, tuskegee, and on and on in its past? I just can’t accept anything the govt says at face value. Just can’t believe anything out of their mouths; dem, rep, ind, whatever. How can anyone? I just don’t understand it. Nancy Pelosi hates the rich, yet she is one, have to pass the bill to know what is in it. John Kerry thinks the rich should pay fair share, yet docks his yacht in a different state to pay less, Al Gore talks about global warming due to oil and then sells Current to Al Jazeera, Patriot Act, NDAA, Halliburton CEO becomes vice president then we hurry off to war, and millions more. How can you have any faith in this con game? Sorry for the ramble. thoughts?
[quote]dk44 wrote:
thoughts?[/quote]
I want to high five you right now.
But I still love 'Merica. Oddly enough, I see it’s shortcomings (let’s face it a good chunk of them are government) as things to over come that will only prove our greatness in years to come.
Well now… that sums it up. Looks like O’s got this one in the bag fellas
[quote]JayPierce wrote:
I am in contact every single day with military professionals from every branch, and every MOS you can think of. Spec Ops included. EVERYBODY is calling bullshit on this being ‘routine’ training!
So, I don’t know where you’re getting your information from, or what your purpose is, but your justification of black helicopters firing blanks from a fifty cal machine gun over heavy traffic is sickening.
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Such a bold post and yet you don’t even know that The Unit is the only Army unit doing hostage rescue. What’s going to be routine about what the 160th and CAG do? They aren’t big Army and they aren’t routine. 160th is the premiere aviation unit in the world and The Unit is arguably the best counter-terrorism unit in the world. Do you think they could want to train at a location like a large hotel in a urban center because it offers a good opportunity for them to put their skills to use and that hotel in Miami just so happened to be available? SOF units are always doing things like this, I could go back to an article from the 1970s about Rangers going off to Alaska to defend an oil pipeline from a hypothetical terrorist attack.
Pump your brakes. You could have learned everything you wanted to by doing a little research on this, you would also know that it happens on a regular basis and has for decades. It’s an insult to members of the community, one who not only served in the 75th but also went on to an ODA[Special Forces], to call their integrity into question because you exaggerate your knowledge on this subject.
[quote]b89 wrote:
[quote]JayPierce wrote:
I am in contact every single day with military professionals from every branch, and every MOS you can think of. Spec Ops included. EVERYBODY is calling bullshit on this being ‘routine’ training!
So, I don’t know where you’re getting your information from, or what your purpose is, but your justification of black helicopters firing blanks from a fifty cal machine gun over heavy traffic is sickening.
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Such a bold post and yet you don’t even know that The Unit is the only Army unit doing hostage rescue. What’s going to be routine about what the 160th and CAG do? They aren’t big Army and they aren’t routine. 160th is the premiere aviation unit in the world and The Unit is arguably the best counter-terrorism unit in the world. Do you think they could want to train at a location like a large hotel in a urban center because it offers a good opportunity for them to put their skills to use and that hotel in Miami just so happened to be available? SOF units are always doing things like this, I could go back to an article from the 1970s about Rangers going off to Alaska to defend an oil pipeline from a hypothetical terrorist attack.
Pump your brakes. You could have learned everything you wanted to by doing a little research on this, you would also know that it happens on a regular basis and has for decades. It’s an insult to members of the community, one who not only served in the 75th but also went on to an ODA[Special Forces], to call their integrity into question because you exaggerate your knowledge on this subject.[/quote]
You watch too much TV.
I believe you are referring to The Regiment (not The Unit), as it is the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (SOAR). It was formed from elements of my dad’s old battalion along with the 159th.
But seeing as your knowledge of the subject is so extensive, please answer a simple question for me:
Why would you not want to fire fifty-cal blanks over civilian traffic?