Radio stations are under no obligation to play anything.
If the listeners say they don’t want to hear the Dixie Chicks the stations won’t play them. Big deal.
vroom wrote:
I don’t think radio stations polled the listeners to see what they wanted… wouldn’t it be the listeners that could turn off the radio or refuse to buy their albums?
Sure, the radio stations can play or not play what they want, but don’t act like the are representing their listeners interests when they do so.[/quote]
Radio stations and customers have independent rights to reject the Dixie Chicks if they want to do so.
Without wading into legal minutiae, essentially the Dixie Chicks can say what they want, the radio stations can play their songs or not, and the listeners can buy their music or not.
One of the cornerstone ideas of freedom of expression is the idea that you cannot be compelled to speak, which is what would be happening if radio stations were forced to carry the Dixie Chicks songs. The analogy most appropriate from 1st Amendment law is the Hurley case ( Hurley v. Irish-American Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual Group of Boston, Inc., 515 U.S. 557 (1995) - United States Supreme Court ), in which the USSC ruled that the organizers of Boston’s St. Patrick’s Day parade could not be forced to include gay/lesbian marchers and floats, as doing so would be akin to compelling the organizers to associate themselves with a political group/position.
As some one astutely noted this looks like a publicity stunt.
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If I’m not mistaken, they criticized Bush, got boycotted/received death threats, apologized, waited until Bush’s popularity dropped and then retracted their apology. If it’s meant to be an honest critism from a public-minded authority, it comes off with too little authority, conviction, and altruism. IMO, they open themselves up to ‘banning’ (good taste?) on that basis alone.
I don’t put country music stations in the same category as news media.
You hold news media, specifically 24 hours TV stations in more regard than I.
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Don’t pretend you don’t think the Natalie Holloway case is the most important thing in the world.[/quote]
I had to do a search to find out what you were talking about! Are they still talking about that? Man…24 hour news and you can tune in every 6 months and still know whats “current”!!
Evryone has made some very good points here (which is why this is a great place to debate). Perhaps the Dixie Chicks are a bad example. I do agree that their current behavior is simply a marketing move. They teased the waters with their initial statement but, didn’t have the balls to go through with it. But it’s as if country music would rather ban a group that may be “controversial” than actually let them speak. Hell, Tim Mcgraw caught hell because of song Red Rag Top.
I do wish country music would be more accpeting of non-traditional formats. It seems that rap has broken through the barrier to reach mainstream audiences…I just feel it could do wonders for the image of country music…but maybe country music doesn’t want mass appeal. Either way…this was some good debatin’…lot of smart folks on here…in the end, though, i’m always right
Merle Hagard has a new single in wich he advocates pulling out of Iraq, but you wont hear it on your FM Cuntry* Station.
*Not a typo.
I’m not a fan of country, but I know Merle Haggard is a badass motherfucker. I’d like to hear the song…although there aren’t any country stations in North Jersey so its not going to happen (I’m thankful for this).[/quote]
Yet another reason why North Jersey is the promised land.
[quote]conorh wrote:
MikeTheBear wrote:
On a totally unrelated note,
Dirty Tiger - Shouldn’t the German version of “Super Squats” be “Uber Kniebeugen” rather than “Super Kniebeugen?” I like that word. From now on, I’m no longer doing squats. I’m doing Kniebeugen.
I don’t speak German, but I’m guessing kniebuegen is literally “knee bends”?[/quote]
I don’t speak German either, but my guess is that Kniebuegen means “knee bends.” From what little I know about how the German language works, it’s very logical. To make new words, they take a bunch of little words that everyone knows the meaning of and strings them together. I’ve heard that the word for “speed limit” is 26 letters long - and it’s just one word.
I do wish country music would be more accpeting of non-traditional formats. It seems that rap has broken through the barrier to reach mainstream audiences…I just feel it could do wonders for the image of country music…but maybe country music doesn’t want mass appeal. Either way…this was some good debatin’…lot of smart folks on here…in the end, though, i’m always right ;)[/quote]
You have it exactly backwards - modern country music sucks because it has turned into pop music based entirely on mass marketability. Modern country is barely different from pop rap, pop R&B, and pop rock. There are even commercial R&B tunes that have been recorded for country airplay and vice versa.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
You have it exactly backwards - modern country music sucks because it has turned into pop music based entirely on mass marketability. Modern country is barely different from pop rap, pop R&B, and pop rock. There are even commercial R&B tunes that have been recorded for country airplay and vice versa.
Modern clowns have wrecked country and western.[/quote]
Couldn’t agree more, thunder. Today’s country is nothing more than a sell out to the general public, or at the very least what the label execs think the public wants.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
You have it exactly backwards - modern country music sucks because it has turned into pop music based entirely on mass marketability. Modern country is barely different from pop rap, pop R&B, and pop rock. There are even commercial R&B tunes that have been recorded for country airplay and vice versa.
Modern clowns have wrecked country and western.
Couldn’t agree more, thunder. Today’s country is nothing more than a sell out to the general public, or at the very least what the label execs think the public wants.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
You have it exactly backwards - modern country music sucks because it has turned into pop music based entirely on mass marketability. Modern country is barely different from pop rap, pop R&B, and pop rock. There are even commercial R&B tunes that have been recorded for country airplay and vice versa.
Modern clowns have wrecked country and western.[/quote]
Ditto!! I hate cuntry, but old school Cash, Williams, and Boxcar are great. This new crap is just awfull.
Just as I think Oprah is responsible for the downfall of western society so to do I think that Garth Brooks is the cause of the downfall or country music.
[quote]redsol1 wrote:
Just as I think Oprah is responsible for the downfall of western society so to do I think that Garth Brooks is the cause of the downfall or country music.
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Redsol1
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I wish more people would realize this. Garth and Oprah are both just different incarnations of satan.
When my sone was just learning how to speak - The first two things I taught him were - “Garth’s a fag” and “Barney sucks”
[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:
Radio stations and customers have independent rights to reject the Dixie Chicks if they want to do so.
Without wading into legal minutiae, essentially the Dixie Chicks can say what they want, the radio stations can play their songs or not, and the listeners can buy their music or not.[/quote]
[quote]rainjack wrote:
When my sone was just learning how to speak - The first two things I taught him were - “Garth’s a fag” and “Barney sucks”
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Off topic:
My Cousin-in-law is a Methodest minister. He stated that he knew he could interpret the book of Revelations to prove that Barney was the Anti-Christ.
[quote]nolecat wrote:
I could care less about the Dixie Chicks… but I think it is funny how country music stations are refusing to play their new album because of DC’s anti Bush remarks. Country music and country music fans have always taken pride in their patriotism and love for the USA. Yet, when someone expresses an oppossing opinion (a basic patriotic right), especially a liberal opinion, country music will send you into exile and ban your music. That doesn’t sound very patriotic to me. I do wish country music would evolve. [/quote]
Merle Hagard has a new single in wich he advocates pulling out of Iraq, but you wont hear it on your FM Cuntry* Station.
*Not a typo.
I’m not a fan of country, but I know Merle Haggard is a badass motherfucker. I’d like to hear the song…although there aren’t any country stations in North Jersey so its not going to happen (I’m thankful for this).
Yet another reason why North Jersey is the promised land.
You have it exactly backwards - modern country music sucks because it has turned into pop music based entirely on mass marketability. Modern country is barely different from pop rap, pop R&B, and pop rock. There are even commercial R&B tunes that have been recorded for country airplay and vice versa.
Modern clowns have wrecked country and western.[/quote]
