[quote]shookers wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
shookers wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Of course the government should take care of everyone. We are all our brother’s keeper and we hired government to enact that morality.
Its what was taught for centuries and centuries. Its right isn’t it? Isn’t it?
At some point, my right to life and your right to liberty conflict. In those cases, who wins? What if my life is only marginally threatened by one of your liberties, then what?
Stop fucking over-simplifying everything
But they ARE simple, aren’t they? You do not exist except as the member of the community. Your happiness means nothing except that you should find happiness in service to others. Unselfishness is the creed of the civilised.
To work only for your own benefit, or even working for your own minimal benefit, taints the morality of your actions. Only when you act for your own unhappiness and the happiness of others can you be truly moral. Haven’t you ever read Kant, or the Bible?
Today’s society is not Ayn Rand’s New York. While certainly their is a paternalistic element to the government’s laws, the safety and security of the population is generally paramount (IE the right to life).
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Is it Kant’s Koenigsburg? You can only be sure if an action is motivated by morality if it is completely devoid of self interest. Don’t we now regard that as the height of morality, as in someone like Mother Theresa?
The government we have is the one we want, actually the one we’ve always wanted. Let’s face it: people always felt cold satisfaction with capitalism. The egoism necessary for a capitalist society clashed with the values they were taught from day 1, that unselfishness is good.
I would gather that the ideal government, the one most want and would happily vote for, is a National Socialist one. They companies get to have their cake and eat it too, with the state administering society and capitalists allowed to make profits; kind of like China today.
National Socialism is our future. Now, we just need a scapegoat, like the Jews…