Getting Off TRT Due to Hair Loss

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I have been on and off trt a few times. Now on it for good. I’m only in 100mg/week. And when I was first on it I noticed thinning around the crown and a widening of my part. I started finasteride 1mg everyday and didn’t get any side effects and after maybe 5 or 6 months I noticed a change in texture of my hair. And slight thickening.

I’ve had many here tell me to dump finasteride but I’ve resisted and so far it works for me. I do not feel that it’s affecting the modest benefits I’ve been getting from an albeit low dose of T.

I guess everyone is different in Joe they respond to finasteride.

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If you lose your hair from testosterone, you are prone to male pattern baldness, and you will lose that hair anyway. I am dealing with the same. For a while, I tried using rogaine and finasteride. Finasteride will stop the progression of hair loss, but you won’t get any back. It also has some side effects for some, and you can’t donate blood while taking it. I’m just embracing it. I have a badass beard, so when it comes a time, I’ll just shave my head. Being bald is most definitely worth the benefits of TRT to me.

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I know Iḿ late to this chat but I experienced it too. My estrogen levels plummeted when I started due to too much anastrazol and my hair loss started. That being said if you are prone to MPB, TRT will just speed it up. If youŕe going to lose it, itĺl happen eventually anyways. I finanally embraced it and buzzed it off with closed clippers. I cut it in the shower twice a week and even if I COULD grow it back I wouldn´t. Buzzed heads are sexy. Embrace it!

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I guess I’m of the opinion that mpb is not just you have it or you don’t. It’s more of a spectrum. Some dudes have it so mildly that they really only start showing it in their 60s. But for those guys, TRT or things like blasting and cruising will accelerate it in many cases.

I guess I’m not very prone but blasting and cruising for about 3 years just barely started to show mpb at 34. I basically started finasteride within a month of a friend that takes it super seriously said I had just a bit of thinning on the crown after I asked him to take a look.

I think it’s worth it, but to each their own. Bald does look good on some guys. I don’t get negative sides from it, so that makes it an easier choice.

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I envy all you guys who have balanced facial structure to pull off a bald head.

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I have discovered something extremely alarming. There’s a study that proves that hairs that fall due to excess testosterone, first die but remain attached, basically dead. Then, when there’s end of its natural cycle, that hairs fall out and never get replaced. What this means is that when a surge of DHT is artificially introduced, a patient WILL NOT KNOW that his hair is doomed. Hair will still be there for a while but dead. And when there’s end of life cycle of each follicle, those hairs will fall out forever. So, there’s NO WAY TO TRACK the progress of hair loss due to introducing DHT addiction in the body, until its too late.

This exact thing happened to me. I was under care of a prominent TRT doctor, he told me that there’s risk of loose hair due to DHT but I thought that I’ll get some warning signs, first, and stop . He didn’t tell me that there will be no warning signs. He added T cream to scrotum, that spiked my DHT, all my MPB hair died almost “instantly” but there was no way of noticing that until 1-2 years later…

All men who replace testosterone MUST BE MADE AWARE OF THIS. There will be no warning signs, and all hair will be gone in 2 years max.

There’s a video if an expert discussing the findings of that study… I don’t have the link at the moment.

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My body likes to grow non-cancerous lumps under my skin. It’s genetic. My mom’s side of the family pretty much all has them. I have two of them on my head. I need the hair, otherwise I’ll be a bald lumpy headed dude that can’t grow a good beard.

I don’t think this is anything new. I think that is the mechanism of male pattern baldness. Normally the hair follicle gets thinner (a sign that it probably won’t regrow when it falls out). That is the sign you need to look out for if you want to catch MPB early. The thinner hairs will break a lot easier (if your hair is longer). If you have a lot of broken hairs that is a sign of MPB.

But yes, TRT can induce quick MPB especially since one is usually going from low T to high T. My serum DHT went from like 19 to 80 on TRT. For a lot of guys that will mean they bald a lot faster.

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Thats almost impossible to notice without going to a hair doctor who would study the hair under a microscope… I saw absolutely no difference in my normally think and super fast growing hair… But it just all died…

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Hair loss when it starts (especially if you have diffuse thinning, or crown thinning) is hard to spot. They say a lot of guys lose 50% density before noticing.

One sign you can look out for is that the hair will look lighter in color. I’ve seen this on guys who are beginning to bald. For crown balding, it might appear that the crown is a lighter color than the rest of their hair. It isn’t actually a lighter color, the strands are thinner making it appear lighter.

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Thanks, but all too late in my case… Starting TRT was a huge mistake of mine… All it gave me is loss of my thick, rich hair… No benefits whatsoever…

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Sucks man.

Quitting T is not something to take lightly. Your body will not recover easily (it wont ever get back to normal) after 7 years of TRT, and you will be in for a hellish time. Natural supplements and stuff will never get your T levels back to normal.

Especially for someone who had low T living in a environment that is full of pollution, with food thats toxic and etc… everything in this world is trying to kill us … food air water. e

Remember T is not just about muscles and looks. It is a hormone that keeps you healthy, alive and full of energy. Your heart for example needs the E created by TRT to keep the heart and arteries and etc healthy.

Being strong and looking good is a side effect /benefit of TRT + life style.

I would rather live with optimal T levels, with hair-loss versus a high possibility of depression, low energy, low libido, high blood pressure , cholesterol and other issues.

You could try a couple things. One is metformin. Woman with PCOS (Like my wife) took metformin and they stopped the hair-loss and grew hair back. Noticeable within 12-18 months. My wife started 2 months ago and she’s noticed her hair has gotten much thicker and the area where she had light hair, its getting better.

There are studies out there on G that i found. try the keyword “Metformin Hair regrowth for woman with PCOS”. These woman have receding hairlines like men. It is due to the DHT created by their body. Woman with PCOS have cysts on ovaries, which create an unbalanced amount of hormones, which in turn cause them to have acne, and hair-loss and etc. They are also having an issue with insulin resistance long term.

Heres something else. i know it can be expensive, but get your ass to thailand and get a hair transplant, i know a few folks who have done it. Yes it can be several thousand, but it helps and works.

When low t you will not care what you w low T, and wont be chasing woman / your wife or having a good time socially with low T … wont work hard, focus better and enjoy life either.

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Well, if T helped me, I’d probably live with hair loss… But it didn’t. Turns out I have some autoimmune anomaly that makes me feel extremely fatigued for over 10 years… My T was very low too, so I (and some doctors) thought that it’s the reason. But during TRT I did feel slightly better but not whole lot… I just lost the damn hair as a result of this genuine strive to feel better…

I still haven’t found the cause if my extreme fatigue and likely never will…

I am thinking about hair transplant though. Likely in Turkey.

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You probably just didnt take enough. You also should check Thyroid levels and get FT3 towards top of range if you feel fatigue. Check reverse T3 as well, that can negate theeffects of t3.

Hormones work. I dont know about the auto immune, but i know people on TRT / THyroid with an autoimune.

You are just not on the right therapy.

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I’ve taken all possible combinations of Cyp and HCG, anastrozole, cabergoline, plus added T cream to scrotum for DHT so no, I wasn’t taking too little. It was all under care of a famous doctor who is a TRT expert. I do have low Thyroid and I have been taking (and still taking) Thyroid medications, tried overdosing, so I know how to determine the proper dose. So trust me, there are other reasons of fatigue besides hormones…

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By the way, how are folks on TRT dealing with the fact that doctors force you to get on Finasteride after hair transplant? It’s like doing opposite of what TRT does - it’ll kill DHT. I don’t know if a hair transplant doc will even agree to do it if I tell them that I ain’t gonna ever get on Finasteride.

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My libido went up when I started Finasteride to what I would consider almost too high. Luckily that only lasted about a month and then returned to baseline (which is still high).

Just on observation, DHT seems a lot more important for guys that are kinda borderline on testosterone levels. Their low level of T with DHT is enough for libido, but without the DHT, it isn’t enough. I’ve yet to see a report of a guy on exogenous T get low libido on Finasteride. Not saying it doesn’t happen, but it is pretty rare.

I think it is important to mention that many androgens can support a high libido. It is somewhat individual. Lots of guys report high libido on nandralone only (they basically have 0 DHT). The androgen activity of nandralone is enough for them to have a healthy libido.

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So were you taking TRT and Finasteride at the same time? Do many TRT folks do that? Forgive ne but what’s the logic here? Doesn’t Finasteride lower DHT in the whole body which is what people take T for?

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Finasteride is an endocrine disruptor and can screw with multiple hormonal pathways. For the fact @mnben87 reported an increase in libido is a fluke or an unintended consequence.

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I started TRT first. I’ve done 3 blasts (higher dosages for like 3 months) as well. I do the TRT on my own now (so I mostly call it a cruise).

I have a buddy that is more into the steroids than me, but also concerned with his hair. I asked him to look over my head, and he said that it was looking like I was just starting to thin on the crown. He said if I wanted to try Finasteride he would give me some to try.

I was hesitant to do that since I have heard some of the horror stories with it. He told me to look at the larger studies. It is true that somewhere between 3-5% get sexual side effects. The thing is, these big studies (several thousand men), haven’t documented a case of PFS. All of the men who got sexual sides reported being back to baseline after a month.

To me, after looking at the big studies it was worth the dice roll. Worked out fine for me.

My buddy pointed me to this guy on YouTube. I do think he is biased a bit, but I think he does a fairly good job of keeping his opinions research based.

I think this is fairly common. I wouldn’t expect it to happen to others starting Finasteride though. I am friends with another guy that reported the same.

Based on what I’ve seen, I’d expect more guys to report higher libido than lower. YMMV.

I would also avoid the logic that using something that disrupts the endocrine system is somehow automatically bad, or is going to do more bad than good (when it comes to sexual function). TRT is also a endocrine disruptor. Most people report better sexual function on the endocrine disruptor, TRT.

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It’s a gamble because you never know which way it will go. With TRT there is no gamble, you simply stop and return to baseline in the majority of cases.

The long term data on Finasteride use doesn’t look good.