[quote]LeanMoreThanMean wrote:
To even have dialogue about it is a waste of breath.[/quote]
Yet here you are.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]mertdawg wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:<<< And the real reson to deny it is the self-esteem project for heterosexuals >>>[/quote]The real reason to deny it is because Judeo\Christian morality is undeniably what was in place when this nation was founded and is affirmed as essential for it’s survival almost universally by the founders, included Franklin and Jefferson neither of which had any Christian faith whatsoever.
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Flatly untrue.[/quote]
Which part is untrue? That its the reason to deny it, that the nation was founded on those principals or that Franklin and Jefferson did not have any Christian faith?
I think the first 2 are true. I think that western civilization, guided by Judeo Christian morality clearly accepted that societies that came to accept open homosexuality were destroyed largely as a result of it. [/quote]
I think its funny that one poster claims the laws were set up without invidious intent… only to have other posters assert that the laws were set up based on a system of ethics from a book which calls homosexuality an “abomination” and advocates that homosexuals “be put to death”.
Can you elaborate on your last point? Which societies and exactly how did accepting homosexuality destroy them?[/quote]
I did not say that accepting homosexuality destroyed societies. I said that western civilization believed that it had contributed, or could have contributed, or at least was sign or symptom of a society in decline. Sodom and Gomorah would be the biblical teaching “fable” on the topic, along with Jericho in which marriage had was dead and fornication, prostitution and orgiastic relationships were the norm, and of course Rome.
There is a reason why Western Civilization is homophobic. Homosexuality is strongly (mentally) associated with cultural decline. Not to mention that having children were considered to be absolutely necessary to maintain your agricultural productivity.
[quote]LeanMoreThanMean wrote:
Don’t you love long debates that regard only 1% of the population?
Who cares about this uber-minority? They are affluent and influential in media is the only reason why this is even brought up (+ hot topic/controversial).
To even have dialogue about it is a waste of breath.[/quote]
Oh yeah, I forgot, people only count if they’re in the majority.
[quote]byukid wrote:
[quote]LeanMoreThanMean wrote:
Don’t you love long debates that regard only 1% of the population?
Who cares about this uber-minority? They are affluent and influential in media is the only reason why this is even brought up (+ hot topic/controversial).
To even have dialogue about it is a waste of breath.[/quote]
Oh yeah, I forgot, people only count if they’re in the majority.[/quote]
lol