[quote]mertdawg wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]mertdawg wrote:
At the last DIOCESAN Roman Catholic Mass I attended the entrance, offertory, eucharistic and closing “hymns” were Let it Be, The Greatest Love, Here comes the Sun and Goodbye Stranger.
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That’s not change. That’s liturgical abuse, and you should report it to the Bishop. Go to a Tridentine Mass, or a Divine Liturgy if you want old school. That’s all I go to unless I don’t have a choice.
P.S. It’s not called Diocesan Roman Catholic Mass, it’s called Novus Ordo, or Ordinary Form and it should be sung with English Chant or approved hymns, and Let it Be is definitely not one of them (the rest I am not sure what they are). [/quote]
I am not titling it “Diocesan Roman Catholic Mass” I am describing it. It was a Roman Catholic Mass done in a Diocesan parish. What is wrong with describing something with, um, adjectives?
Well you’ve answered, but Goodby Stranger is a song from Supertramp about saying goodbye to a lover from a one night stand.
- YouTube if you want.
I also was appalled by the number of hosts I uncovered stuck under the pews and into missellettes.
Most of the music in maybe 250 masses I attended were old protestant hymns like How Great thou Art, Peace is flowing like a River, As the Rain Rushes Down…
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No thanks, I don’t listen to trash. And, yeah. This is part of the problem with the liberal agenda through the 70’s. It’s turning around, but there is a definitely parishes that are still liberal.
I went into a parish and they were playing Amazing Grace. I pulled the music minister aside and asked him if he wished to be a Protestant. Of course, he said…“No, no…I’m a devout Catholic.” I asked them why he was playing a song that promoted Protestant doctrine written by a slave trader? Of course, “he shrugged me off.” So, I spoke to the Father. He admitted that it was too much trouble to deal with and that he dare not suggest that go to the correct Latin chant. I asked if it was too much trouble to stop an abuse to our Lord’s liturgy? He told me that was nonsense, it was ‘just music.’ I, then, asked him if it would be too much trouble if the Bishop commanded that he changed the music.
The Father tried to shrug me off as if I wouldn’t dare. I told him that if he didn’t immediately change the music, that I would have no other choice. I came back the next Sunday and there was some better songs and Amazing Grace wasn’t in there, but still not acceptable. So, I wrote to the Bishop and handed it to him (there was other liturgical abuses, but they are more scandalous).
I gave it sometime as a I knew the man is busy, a couple months went by and it still hadn’t stopped, and slowly went back to worse and worse music. So, I called the Bishops office and told him that since nothing was being done that I would have to send the evidence and receipts for the letters to the US Conference. He told me that there was no need and that the priest was going on vacation for a few months and that another Father would be there by today.
Two months later the man came back completely converted, solid in his formation, solid in everything from liturgy to sacramentals. No more protestant music, new music ministers, new choir (that was in the back of the sanctuary). And, now he says all his liturgies in Latin almost exclusively.
Change can be done, the reason why it happened in the first place is that the people who have always kept it conservative were no longer conservative, they were affected by the liberal agenda of change is best.
What most people do not realise is that it isn’t the Bishops and priests that have kept the tradition (I mean they are, but they usually come up with the crazy ideas), it’s the laity who keep it traditional by resisting the change. By uprising when there are heretics. And, when they fall to liberalism, it gets tough. Now, people are becoming more and more conservative and the Church is becoming more and more conservative.