Again, you simply avoid answering questions and pretend like my questions are illiterate because you can’t answer them. Pretending you are above it all, when deep down you now it is YOU that is very wrong.
No. Questions cannot be illiterate. You; however, can be and are.
As far as answering your asine question(s), which I do far more than I should, I would need to explain basic entry level concepts to you first and that’s a hard pass for me. I have tried to impart basic high school level knowledge about business and accounting to you in the past and you never get it. So, no, I won’t continue to answer your dumb fucking question.
Go find a community college and take Intro to Business and Intro to Accounting.
I wasn’t wrong then and I’m not wrong now. I know what the fucking I’m talking about, unlike you.
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And this guy still doesn’t realize how much damage he does to his own cause.
Sheesh
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No, YOU haven’t answered anything. You state beliefs and that is typically where your rebuttal ends. To think that a person actually believes disposable income has risen when wages have remained stagnant or declined for decades plus the disappearing of the American middle class. This goes to show how deep your brainwashing is. Just a useful idiot of the right.
So many examples, too many to list, but yeah disposable income is rising.
Fuck off, I’ve posted god damn spreadsheets before. You just can’t handle it because I didn’t turn it into a YouTube video.
Oh, I see your problem. Point out where I said disposable income has risen. I’ll wait.
Okay, I see YOUR problem. So disposable income has fallen for most Americans?
http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/topics/income/
Correction, this does state an average when compared to other OECD countries. My bad.
It ain’t my problem that you can’t read.
I doubt it, but I haven’t look into it because I don’t really care.
He posted OECD.org info. I read it. There’s issues with how they present the data. Namely, average household disposable income per capita. Is it household income or per capita? I’m really not sure. They don’t explain it well. Or maybe I’m not interpreting it right…
either way the US has the highest instance of avg household per capita disposable income among OECD nations - well above the average. So, even though it’s muddy, it still doesn’t say what he thinks it does…
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Ya, I actually posted this earlier in the thread and it’s where this side bar started. The US clearly has more disposable income on average than every single other nation on this earth.
Whether or not it’s risen since lord know’s what period we’re referring to is not a simple question to answer. My gut says it has, simply because 50+ years ago a family only had one income. Now most have two.
The trick is figuring out how cost of living has changed and calculating 50s dollars (for example) into 2018 dollars. Factoring debt now vs then. So on and so forth.
In other words, it’s complicated and it’s well beyond anything shit for brain can understand so there’s no point in spending even a couple of hours trying to scratch the surface.
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I mean this is your answer. How do you compare our standard of living even 10 years ago to today? It’s complicated. Technology and the amount of people with access to cutting edge, time saving technology, with such amazing quality improvements, it’s difficult to compare.
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Absolutely. It’s almost impossible to compare different decades let alone different eras. Just think about how much disposable income goes to bullshit like cable and cell phones. Fuck, I have a Surface Pro III and a pretty nice desktop to myself. My wife has a laptop and an Ipad. My 2-year-old has a freakin Kindle Fire. My grandparents had a radio…
*I mean, shit, my wife’s birthday is coming up and I just bought her a small refrigerator specifically for wine. We have two refrigerators and a stand alone freezer already. I get freakin lootcrate every month…
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Put it this way, a lot of assumptions have to be made to even start taking a crack at it - I’d say most attempts at comparison are made with good intentions and probably in the ball park enough to pull reasonable insights. But those insights should be applied conservatively or not at all mainly b/c of the assumptions and variation - especially across however many households there are and how much has changed over time.
I’m not going to say I don’t compare now to some other time and use it in arguments. I do. I try to be congnizant of it but I’m sure I fall short … more often than I care to admit lol
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As an aside: have you ever tried (or anyone for that matter) ButcherBox?
I haven’t… Sounds interesting, though.
*Looks sweet. We usually buy a side of beef once of twice a year depending on the size of the order.
Seems pretty freakin reasonable
That a meal for damn near 80% of the year from $1,500.
Yea I priced it out for my area, it came out maybe marginally above what I pay for a cut from the grocery store but the quality seems higher than what I’m getting now, the reviews aren’t bad, some are keeping me away from trying it out - mainly a few reviews say they received bad/rancid meat.
Was wondering if anyone has tried it out here.
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Wow, you’re all heart. So much empathy you exude.
So all the information on stagnant wages and the disappearing American middle class are not true?
It is the average. Meaning that ALL of the billionaires wealth is distributed among everyone. Do you think that may skew the average? And what are we to make of the decades worth of stagnant or declining wages for the average American? Not to mention the disappearing American middle class. Capitalism is eating itself. The greed is never enough and while Americans may not be able to pinpoint the problem, the have their finger on the pulse. Change is coming, it has to.
Yes, you’re right it does say average. Median is a much better metric. According to Business Insider, the MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME was around $59,000 in 2016 and rose from $57,000 in 2015. If you can find a median disposable income I don’t think it’d be too far off the mark from the average you’re referencing.
Cool, though, you semi-understand how outliers could affect an average. Do you understand median?
It is an average. Do you understand his?
Wow, his gut, meaning his ideology which will not allow him to accept anything else. Evidence be damned. He is too brainwashed to accept anything else.
Because they have to and there still losing ground. Another big fail for Capitalism.
You’ve just described yourself. Congratulations.
And things that are more important like education and healthcare continue to rise.