Yea I’ve definitely noticed when it comes time to go back after a month to get a shot, the week leading up to it I’m dragging ass. I think that’s my plan. Run 400 a week on non doctor shot weeks, for 2 months, see what happens, then go a little bigger come closer to summer. I’m located in dutchess county, NY. I’m seeing my regular urologist for this regiment. I don’t think he’s well versed in TRT as much as a specialist, but he was covered under my insurance
My t nation join date? Like a month ago
The only thing I would caution you on is your doctor bloodwork frequency.
When are your next labs? You are going to need weeks for your levels to get back to normal and fix whatever else in your bloodwork is off.
My doc has been doing it every 4 months. Just got a set done and am getting an injection Tuesday. I was planning on starting a week after that appt. Go for 10 weeks, weekly shot myself besides the weeks I go in for the monthly shot. Hoping that would give me enough time to get back to normal levels before the next 4 month blood work. Really considering using a clinic instead of this doctor going forward so I don’t have to hide what I’m doing and actually get some expertise
I’m not aware of many clinics that will provide you that high of Test. Many of them are giving out Nandrolone and Anavar easily though which is beyond me. I can’t believe they don’t get shut down as neither have a place in any treatment area of their practice.
Sorry I didn’t mean a clinic to get that much test. I’ve got a place for extra test. I just meant it would be nice to work with people who I could be honest with. Actually tell them I’m blasting for a couple months so my bloods will be off and they could coach me through it instead of ending my treatment and kicking me to the door. My doctor is a respected urologist and I guarantee he would be yelling at me if they wanted me to get blood work during a blast and saw the numbers. A few months back looking at Reddit and someone posted about one of the online clinics telling him basically that they don’t care if you’re gonna run a cycle, they just 100% would not provide any drugs over a normal trt regiment. But they would run bloods knowing what you’re doing, work with you in mitigating sides and bad blood reads, and some other things. Basically their trt doc wouldn’t judge what you were doing and would actually help with problems that might occur during. Sounds too good to be true so I’m skeptical. But that would be awesome to have an expert looking out for you while on cycle
Yeah they won’t do that either. You will have to time your blasts after labs. If you give yourself 6 weeks of regular TRT before your lab draw that should be enough.
Not trying to derail here: But. I’ve always wondered what would happen if someone were to post some poor bloodwork during some annual TRT blood work. Something like.
High Test
Low SHBG
Crashed lipids
High RBC’s Etc.
What would happen if someone were to show up and say… “Well that’s because I was (or currently running) compound X,Y,Z” As an experiment.
I’m not talking hometown family practice doctors here. Just TRT clinics.
What would they say?
I realize THIS IS NOT TRT.
Just playing devil’s advocate here.
Would they help you out in mitigating the health effects?
Or kick your ass out of there?
That’s a question I’d love to know the answer to lol. Someone has had to of done it before. I need to know how that played out. And if it was all good, I need to know the clinic
…and thats a big part of it too. A few months into my TRT treatment my doctor prescribed me an RX for oxandrolone ( Anavar).
However, here in MN. there are restrictions between my state and Empower pharmacy and the medication could not be shipped legally.
My provider even said that if I have a friend or relative in another state I could ship it to them instead.
Now, with all that being said. What would happen if i showed up with some Anavar(ish) related blood testing and simply told my provider that I got ahold of some somewhere else.
Would they refuse to continue to work with me, If a got some UGL var and went ahead with the plan that THEY originally prescribed for me?
Same thing with Nand. or stanozolol.
Fingers crossed someone happens upon this thread that has done this and can give some insight. I don’t wanna be the guinea pig and get thrown out the door lol
I think the first time you got caught you might be able to get away with saying you messed up your injection schedule or injected the day before bloods but I think that’s about as far as it would go before the red flags came up.
Clinics are out to make money and really don’t have to answer to anyone so it would be at their discretion how they handle it.
Again, Just playing devil’s advocate here. But from a neutral perspective. Why would they throw out a perfectly good client. Knowing that there is additional potential for hocking their wares through risk mitigation/ancillaries and further treatment?
Let use me as an example again. They hypothetically Rx’d me Anavar or Stanz, or Nand. and Empower could not ship it into my state. So, if I were to hypothetically get some UGL and show up with crushed lipids and lowered SHBG and say that I (backdoored) the plan that they prescribed. Would they be all mad?
Especially if was up front about my use of each of these prescribable meds?
Yea I gotta believe the only way someone might get away with it is with a clinic on the shady side. I’m still under my urologist, going in person for the shot at his office, and I don’t think that they would have any leeway with me. Until I find a better trt option, I’m gonna have to be very careful. Gonna really prod the nurse tomorrow to see when they have me scheduled for my next bloods and see if it would even be possible to sneak in a couple month blast. I think I’m going to be looking for a better way forward regardless because this once a month 400 g shot has me feeling like shit the week leading up to the next shot
Yes, I agree. Your protocol needs to get changed to once or twice a week injections. I think that a change for the better here could actually give you a PED like experience in itself.