I have two options to perform the cycle and I need your opinion on it:
Option A:
Week 1-12 500mg Test E twice/week
Week 1-14 20mg Tamoxifen/day
Week 15-16 40mg Tamoxifen/day
Week 17-18 20mg Tamoxifen/day
Option B:
Week 1-12 500mg Test E twice/week
Week 1-12 400Ui HCG 3/week
Week 3-12 0.25Anastrozol twice/week
Week 15-16 40mg Tamoxifen/day
Week 17-18 20mg Tamoxifen/day
What would you do if it was your first cycle? What would you change?
Thank you very much!
id not take the nolva at all during the cycle, id run the adex at 0.25mg twice a week starting week 2…eat it with your injection…hopefully you don’t eat your injection…also if you wanna listen to people on here be my guest, drop the fucking hcg….you don’t need it period…don’t overthink it…if you wanted to add something add proviron at 25mg to 50 mg daily…id just run 25…that’s it…I just ran 600mg a week same way, I kickstarted it with 30 mg dbol a day first 4 weeks only difference really…
So nolva will not reduce water weight. It does not lower estrogen. The only effect nolva will have is blocking gyno. Therefore it will not effect gains what so ever. Now when it comes to AIs the reason I don’t like them on cycle is I feel like shit if my E2 is “within range” on a blast. When my E2 climbs it makes my joints feel better and I just in general feel much better. Adex is also a harsh drug on your body im a firm believer in less drugs the better.
Absolutely the same. I think the reason most people chose nolva over clomid is due to less side effects that nolva brings with it. Altho not everyone has a issue with clomid but a lot report mental and emotional sides. And there is also some wierd shit about going blind on too much clomid check it out.
Option A would be your best bet. Keep the adex on hand tho. If your diet is clean and your bf low you shouldn’t have a big issue with water retention. The only time I would use adex is if the elevated estrogen was negativley impacting my erection and seriously affecting my quality of life.
So nova would help with water retention as well cuz I’m worried about water retention.
I don’t know where I read that nolva can prevent gains if taken during cycle…
No nolva won’t. If your diet is clean and relatively low sodium and your body fat isn’t all crazy then you shouldn’t have all that much water retention. Some water retention is normal but if your holding 15 lbs of water tho chances are there is more to it then just elevated E2. Imo adex should never be used for the purpose of reducing water retention unless your about to step on stage and are trying to purposely crash your estrogen.
Iv heard of AIs reducing gains. To which I believe there to be some truth. A lot of people end up crashing thier estrogen on cycle messing with adex. And I guarantee you won’t be gaining shit as long as your E2 is bottomed out. Remember estrogen has anabolic effects you need it to grow!
what’s the Docs opinion on AI? Run it day 1? Run it week 3? or just have it on hand?
I’m wondering if it’s best for me to run something like .25mg/ once a week just to be safe.
Do you think AI is necessary for someone that retains water or converts easily? Is it best to not even risk it and start using an AI week 3 of a 12 week Test E 500mg cycle?
I’m conflicted on using an AI or not.
I would err on the side of not using it but having it on hand. If you start to notice you’re holding water (edema, watery looking upper arms) then you can always begin conservative dosing.
This isn’t like choosing a religion or a sports team to root for. An AI is a tool and if current conditions call for it, I like having it in the tool box. If they don’t, then I don’t use it. And if you start too late, it won’t matter and if you crash your E in the grand scheme of things that won’t matter either. You’ll know immediately when your E is too low, you’ll stop the AI and after 3-4 lethargic days you’ll be back to normal.
He doesn’t advocate the use of one for blasting At all. He has some good threads on here where he expressed his views I wish I knew how to link the threads I’m sure you can find them if you search.
He’s the main reason why I stopped using adex and when I did I was 1000x happier. Granted I put on a little more water then I would have liked it wasn’t enough to cause blood pressure issues but enough to give me slight moon face. But everything else improved.
If your worried about getting gyno etc then run the nolva… Unless your dick starts going limp or you can’t function as a man any longer I would not reccomend messing with adex on a 12 week blast. Water retention and bloat can be controlled with a proper diet and decent body fat %
I am 5ft 3in tall. My wt.is 65kg and fat% is 25. I have been working out fr 6yrs now. Have never been to anabolics. I want to try testo only cycle as my very 1st cycle. Can anyone pls suggest me whether i shud go for it. My aim is to reduce fat% and attain lean muscle mass.