[quote]football12345 wrote:
for every first cycle i’ve read about…almost 95% say just go with test and test only…[/quote]
this is true, one reason is because you have no idea how you will react to any drugs because you are new to this. if you start having sides you know what they are from and how to solve them
it helps gauge how you can handle things afterall everyone is different.
if you go stacking drugs you can get gyno from say tren and think its the test and treat the wrong thing and do nothing.
thast just one reason but yes test only is perfect for frist time
but with plenty of research a tried and true bread and butter cycle like test/tren or deca/test or even deca/dbol these are all fine for first timers but again homework mst be done well in advance so you know what to expect.
Too bad you need it out of your system so fast. Daily injects for 10 weeks is going to be a chore. I like your idea about sticking to a single compound for your first sysle to get max feel & feedback of your body’s response with no interference / confusion from a second compound.
Do your homework and find a good source as some prop is more painful than others depending on the BA content. Prop in general is more painful than other esters from what I hear and in my experience. I did 10 weeks of enanthate with zero pain and now several weeks of prop with pain starting about 8 hours after each inject. 1 ml in my right quad had me limping for 4+ days. Potency is also key.
If you find after several weeks that you are not driven enough, you may want to add dbol at 30mg split to 3 doses of 10mg per dose. It does wonders for drive, strength, and traing progression.
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
Too bad you need it out of your system so fast. Daily injects for 10 weeks is going to be a chore. I like your idea about sticking to a single compound for your first sysle to get max feel & feedback of your body’s response with no interference / confusion from a second compound.
Do your homework and find a good source as some prop is more painful than others depending on the BA content. Prop in general is more painful than other esters from what I hear and in my experience. I did 10 weeks of enanthate with zero pain and now several weeks of prop with pain starting about 8 hours after each inject. 1 ml in my right quad had me limping for 4+ days. Potency is also key.
If you find after several weeks that you are not driven enough, you may want to add dbol at 30mg split to 3 doses of 10mg per dose. It does wonders for drive, strength, and traing progression.[/quote]
I believe the excess pain from propionate has more to due with the ester irritating the subcutaneous layer of skin. If the Z track method used by most professionals is applicated, I believe the irritation would be reduced. (But still present)
on another note Dbol has a fairly high long (6week) detection time, so might not be the best choice…
Thanks for the heads up. I didn’t realize dbol had such a long detection time. As for tren ace first cycle, there are several members of this forum that have done it recently. Randizo & Dirty Gerdy amoung others. If you do your homework and have required ancillaries on hand this combo could work well. Tren has the potential for serious temporary sides sexually, night sweats, back pump, reduced cardio ability. Often most of these can be limited or avoided. The strength boost is unparelleled from what I hear. I have never done tren ace so can only comment on what I have read.
Again, there is nothing to stop you from starting with test prop and evaluating if your are happy with the effects after 2-3 weeks. If not, you can always add tren ace.