Back to the gender bending topic. Some of the things that are said on this video are thought provoking, with regard to how we define what is masculine and feminine. Warning, this is going to make some people uncomfortable. 
The big gender bender, Rosie Grier.
āZiss iss how we maintain our flexeebility and zings of diss natahā.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]Edevus wrote:
I certainly disagree with your two points :
-Yet men seem to die much more often in wars. The farmer woman had to struggle to feed the family when she lost her husband in a war against some nobleman for a random hill, but it was the man and/or his young son who died there.
I donāt disagree that everybody suffers in war, but would you rather stay home and take care of the farm and the business or fight in a trench during World War I and die to gas, diseases, hunger, allied or enemy fire?
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Of course more men die in war than women on the front lines. I donāt really think anyone can argue that. The attrition rates for trench warefare in WW I were astronomical.
However, I think itās a bit disingenuous to think that women are staying home taking care of the farms. In my opinion, wars fought on your soil are punic wars that all too often involve burning the farm and everyone on it. We donāt exactly have to reach to ancient history to cite examples. Many of them are civil wars involving the ever popular ethnic cleansing.
The lions share of people killed on the front lines are men due to the fact that women, typically are not allowed in front line combat nor do we usually get a hard on to do it. Just donāt romanticize the āRosie Rivetterā whoās at home keeping the munitions factory running. She is the exception. Think, instead of the people in Srebenica in the early '90ās or places like Sierra Leone.[/quote]
So men love war and get erections over war? You can be less obnoxious.
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Back to the gender bending topic. Some of the things that are said on this video are thought provoking, with regard to how we define what is masculine and feminine. Warning, this is going to make some people uncomfortable.
Time to Evolve - YouTube [/quote]
First of all, that lady was HORRIBLE at shaving/waxing! Doesnt she shave her own legs? I mean seriouslyā¦ WTF! haha worst shave job Iāve ever seen
Secondly, LOL @ āI wanna salsa dance and have a mixed drinkā
[quote]Alffi wrote:
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]Edevus wrote:
I certainly disagree with your two points :
-Yet men seem to die much more often in wars. The farmer woman had to struggle to feed the family when she lost her husband in a war against some nobleman for a random hill, but it was the man and/or his young son who died there.
I donāt disagree that everybody suffers in war, but would you rather stay home and take care of the farm and the business or fight in a trench during World War I and die to gas, diseases, hunger, allied or enemy fire?
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Of course more men die in war than women on the front lines. I donāt really think anyone can argue that. The attrition rates for trench warefare in WW I were astronomical.
However, I think itās a bit disingenuous to think that women are staying home taking care of the farms. In my opinion, wars fought on your soil are punic wars that all too often involve burning the farm and everyone on it. We donāt exactly have to reach to ancient history to cite examples. Many of them are civil wars involving the ever popular ethnic cleansing.
The lions share of people killed on the front lines are men due to the fact that women, typically are not allowed in front line combat nor do we usually get a hard on to do it. Just donāt romanticize the āRosie Rivetterā whoās at home keeping the munitions factory running. She is the exception. Think, instead of the people in Srebenica in the early '90ās or places like Sierra Leone.[/quote]
So men love war and get erections over war? You can be less obnoxious. [/quote]
I can also be more obnoxious. I think you missed the point. Itās a metaphorical āhard-onā. I understand if English is your second language. Men, for the most part, are larger and more aggressive than women. This is particularly true of younger men. From the dawn of time, that aggression has been the fuel of war. This is not to say that they incite it, they are merely the gasoline pumped into it to keep the engine running. The rationale behind it can take many forms: the idea of freedom, loyalty, patriotism, imperialism, etc. All you have to do is look at recruiting posters and media.
I believe it is in the nature of most men to be aggressive. When you supply a moral imperative you absolve, to a degree, the negative connotations attached to aggression.
This isnāt to say men are mindless puppets. Women are manipulated too; or we allow ourselves to be manipulated when we feel like we are given permission to do something we may feel isnāt entirely right. It just appears in different forms.
Itās time for androgyny here comes Patā¦
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
Funny how this thread basically turned into a men vs women thread.
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? Turned it started in the first post.[/quote]
Yeah but when we get full grown adults bickering back and forth like children I felt it was time to hint people about the stupidity of it.
Everything Iāve read in this thread can simply be boiled down to:
āBoys are better than girls!ā
"No! Boys are gross! Girls are better!
āGirls are gross! We are stronger so we are better!ā
āBut girls are smarter! Haha!ā
And so onā¦
[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
Funny how this thread basically turned into a men vs women thread.
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? Turned it started in the first post.[/quote]
Yeah but when we get full grown adults bickering back and forth like children I felt it was time to hint people about the stupidity of it.
Everything Iāve read in this thread can simply be boiled down to:
āBoys are better than girls!ā
"No! Boys are gross! Girls are better!
āGirls are gross! We are stronger so we are better!ā
āBut girls are smarter! Haha!ā
And so onā¦[/quote]
You at least have to admit we smell good right?
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Back to the gender bending topic. Some of the things that are said on this video are thought provoking, with regard to how we define what is masculine and feminine. Warning, this is going to make some people uncomfortable.
Did anyone else have someone walk into the room while watching that video? Trust me, itās even more awkward than watching it alone.
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Back to the gender bending topic. Some of the things that are said on this video are thought provoking, with regard to how we define what is masculine and feminine. Warning, this is going to make some people uncomfortable.
Time to evolve huh?
Evolve into a bunch of Miss Nancies I guess.
Fuck that.
That video makes me never want to shave again.
And honestly, this is what happens when thereās no frontier to conquer, no border to defend, no wars to fight, no Soviets to beatā¦ we worry about pussy ass bullshit like this.
Ugh. Fuck you America. Seriously.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Time to evolve huh?
Evolve into a bunch of Miss Nancies I guess.
Fuck that.
That video makes me never want to shave again.[/quote]
Iāll admit the whole makeup thing was really hard for me to watch. My gut reaction is YUCK!
BUT he does make some interesting points about how weāve designated certain behaviors as being āmaleā or āfemaleā, some of which is fairly arbitrary. I mean is it really so bad to be a man who likes flowers, and why should a boy like sharks?
And, I do think we tolerate tomboyishness in little girls, far more than we tolerate boys who lean more toward being a ānancyā. I wonder why that is?
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Time to evolve huh?
Evolve into a bunch of Miss Nancies I guess.
Fuck that.
That video makes me never want to shave again.[/quote]
Iāll admit the whole makeup thing was really hard for me to watch. My gut reaction is YUCK!
BUT he does make some interesting points about how weāve designated certain behaviors as being āmaleā or āfemaleā, some of which is fairly arbitrary. I mean is it really so bad to be a man who likes flowers, and why should a boy like sharks?
And, I do think we tolerate tomboyishness in little girls, far more than we tolerate boys who lean more toward being a ānancyā. I wonder why that is?
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Kids like what they will like. A young kid who likes flowers may one day become a botanist, or he might become a closet queen. Or both.
But really, who gives a fuck?
My first reaction to the video isnāt āyuckā eitherā¦ I just rolled my eyes, because to me, this is just a cry for attention from someone whoās mommy didnāt hold them enough.
What I do know is that I donāt give a shit whether a guy thinks heās a guy or a chick or a spider monkey - if you walk down the street lookin like that, youāre going to get weird stares because youāre not like 99 percent of the population.
Donāt want the weird stares? Fine, then keep that shit to yourself and donāt dress like that, or donāt frolic through fuckin tulips. Youāre not going to change the way people are and how they react to bizarre things.
Like I said, this is all a lot of bitchy bullshit that comes up when men are leading too easy of a life.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Time to evolve huh?
Evolve into a bunch of Miss Nancies I guess.
Fuck that.
That video makes me never want to shave again.[/quote]
Iāll admit the whole makeup thing was really hard for me to watch. My gut reaction is YUCK!
BUT he does make some interesting points about how weāve designated certain behaviors as being āmaleā or āfemaleā, some of which is fairly arbitrary. I mean is it really so bad to be a man who likes flowers, and why should a boy like sharks?
And, I do think we tolerate tomboyishness in little girls, far more than we tolerate boys who lean more toward being a ānancyā. I wonder why that is?
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ā¦But really, who gives a fuck?..
What I do know is that I donāt give a shit whether a guy thinks heās a guy or a chick or a spider monkey - if you walk down the street lookin like that, youāre going to get weird stares because youāre not like 99 percent of the population.
Donāt want the weird stares? Fine, then keep that shit to yourself and donāt dress like that, or donāt frolic through fuckin tulips. Youāre not going to change the way people are and how they react to bizarre things.
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Irish - LOL! at frolicking through the tulips. And I agree, mostly.
Does this mean you donāt want Rosie to do a nice pillow for your man cave?
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Irish - LOL! at frolicking through the tulips. And I agree, mostly.
Does this mean you donāt want Rosie to do a nice pillow for your man cave?
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Bwahahahaha. Donāt even get me started on āManā cavesā¦ the idea that a man is confined to the basement of his own house astonishes me, and makes me think that either heās got a domineering bitch wife or heās trying to relive his frat boy days by having a foozeball table and wearing his hat backwards while watching āthe big gameā in his basement. How about you live inā¦you know, the rest of the houseā¦
yea Iām on a roll, but Iām going to sleep.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
The difference between men and women doesnāt become a problem until we argue that my difference is better than your difference.[/quote]
Yin and Yang, both equally important and too much of either one can lead to hardship.
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Yo Momma - That was very, very funny.
Edevus - What you are describing could be a memory of some of the subtests of a standard IQ test, or a shorter test of nonverbal intelligence. There are quite a few. In my practice, Iāve given a number of tests related to IQ and achievement, among other factors related to learning. If you come across your old test results, Iād be happy to look at them for you, via PM. [/quote]
It was 18 years ago, so I canāt remember much of it, just what I said. I remember I had to do three different ones (in three different days) and I know the score, which ended being more of a burden than a good thing (due to the family and own pressure).
[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
Funny how this thread basically turned into a men vs women thread.
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? Turned it started in the first post.[/quote]
Yeah but when we get full grown adults bickering back and forth like children I felt it was time to hint people about the stupidity of it.
Everything Iāve read in this thread can simply be boiled down to:
āBoys are better than girls!ā
"No! Boys are gross! Girls are better!
āGirls are gross! We are stronger so we are better!ā
āBut girls are smarter! Haha!ā
And so onā¦[/quote]
The thread doesnāt have that attitude so far. Now, if we bring (our) Dick to the conversation :
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Back to the gender bending topic. Some of the things that are said on this video are thought provoking, with regard to how we define what is masculine and feminine. Warning, this is going to make some people uncomfortable.
Time to Evolve - YouTube [/quote]
This made me uncomfortable. Not because it was a guy wearing makeup or talking about gender, thatās nothing new or shocking to me. It was because the girl that did his makeup was so awful. It left me questioning not his masculinity, but her femininity. How could you be that bad at putting on makeup and still call yourself a woman? lol
Iāve got one or two stories related to this topic that Iāll try to post up this afternoon. Iāll have to dig for the links and right now I have to go to work and pretend Iām a responsible adult.