[quote]gendou57 wrote:
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I’ll address other points when I have time, but you are making the wrong argument - the slaughters mentioned above were carried out in the name not of religion, but in the name of Reason.
Whether we want to pick apart the rationality of each is irrelevant to the point - what matters is the atrocities were done in the name of a non-religious vision of ultimate truth based on what was labeled Reason.
The OP lamented that so much violence had been carried out in the name of religion, as in if only we get get post-religion, we would get closer to a violence-free world.
My comment to that was that religion’s theoretical nemesis - reason - is used in the same way as religion to do awful things, so religion is no more the problem than reason. What causes the problem is human nature.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
pookie wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Freedom of religion does not mean freedom from religion.
Could you explain that opinion in more details?
Well, I suppose it means we don’t have to take anything based on religion and not law seriously… so we can yell during those ‘quite’ periods and say ‘Fuck Jesus!’ as loud as we like in public.
Because freedom of religion doesn’t mean freedom from anti-religion.
(Obviously, this ^^^ wasn’t entirely serious…)
I have no problem with that. You can insult Jesus in a public place.
Where does that end though? Do we let Fred Phelps do his thing by that principal…
I want to let him have the right, but I don’t want him to exercise it… but I suppose that not giving freedom of expression to those you hate makes it not very free at all.[/quote]
It doesn’t ever end. There will always be people saying things we don’t like. As long as they are not directly causing harm there is little we can do about it unless we start infringing on all of our freedoms.