[quote]Cortes wrote:
I’ve heard that, though tren does not aromatise, there is still this chance of gyno, particularly after coming off. How would one go about preventing this?[/quote]
gyno from progesteron sides. vitamin b-6 250mg/ed is the cheap less effective way of fighting it off. cabergolin (i beleive thats it?) is the way to go, assuming you got billz to dish out. you can get that at a research chem site.
i plan to take tren 1 day and i 2 would like to know what else i should be aware of due to tren gyno.
2thepain, I wonder what you know about tren and gyno. I’ve heard that, though tren does not aromatise, there is still this chance of gyno, particularly after coming off. How would one go about preventing this?[/quote]
I am not 100% sure of the physiology that comes into play with tren gyno. I’m sure someone here can explain it better than I. But I beleive it is due to prolactin levels that can be raised by tren use. Ways to combat prolactin levels are B6 use (the less effective way) and cabergoline (which is a better drug to use).
When there are high levels of prolactin it will react with higher estrogen levels to create gyno. So it is my understanding that the best/easiest way to combat tren gyno is to keep estrogen levels in check.
gyno from progesteron sides. vitamin b-6 250mg/ed is the cheap less effective way of fighting it off. cabergolin (i beleive thats it?) is the way to go, assuming you got billz to dish out. you can get that at a research chem site. [quote]
I’m 99% sure that prolactin levels are raised and cause the tren gyno instead of progesteron. But I’ve been wrong before;)
[quote]p-dub wrote:
anavar is not better than d-bol for strength gains on a mg to mg basis.
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Well, that’s just not true.
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500-750mgs test wk
400-600mgs deca wk
25-50mgs d-bol run the d-bol anytime in ur cycle. I wouldnt run it for more than 8 weeeks probably 4-6weeks.[/quote]
Anytime in the cycle? 8 weeks?
This is not good advice.
contrl: this is my fav cycle for strength. In my experience d-bol is stronger on mg to mg basis. for the timing of when to take the d-bol is really up to the user. if you waht to “jump start” a cycle then take it from weeks 1-5. or maybe you want to take it when the other androgens have started to “kick in” or maybe you want to take it at the end of the cylce after you stop the deca and just run it with the test. Cheers
Okay after much conisderation, I’ve decided to go with:
500mg Prop shot ED for 8 weeks then taper
350mg Tren shot ED for 8 weeks
40mg Anavar ED for 4 weeks then 30mg ED for 4 weeks. Not sure if this is too long to be running an oral though, even if the doses are lower and it’s the easiest on the liver.
Then of course my PCT after the taper is done.
I’ll be using this probably in the summer, and hoping that a good tan will relieve me of the acne, but I think my expectations are really high…
Id suggest as others have said swapping out the var for d bol for a couple reasons. Dbol at 30-40mg a day will do much more for you than the var and its obviously more cost effective.
Id suggest as others have said swapping out the var for d bol for a couple reasons. Dbol at 30-40mg a day will do much more for you than the var and its obviously more cost effective.
At those doses you will be over a gram per week. Add in some adex at .25mg/day.