Fahrenheit 9-11

Kevin,
Fair enough. I am with you… I would rather know the truth. I am not saying that Moore’s film is true or false since I haven’t seen it yet, but clearly it has people talking. Just take a look at this thread. Over 100 posts in just a few days!

Retard… Do you own any other graphics? Just curious as my memory of your posts always has that animated gif in it. You want me to send you some more so you can expand your repetoire?

Micheal Moore = Comic Relief for the Republicans.

Moore is a joke. And his movies are a joke. I find Moore more making more of a comical ass out of himself. Then having some kind of politcal view.

Roy betty:

ever heard of editing a video Moore is the director and producer. I never saw a interview that Bush did when said that while on the golf course.
TBaug said it pefect the man lies

[quote]That fat tub of goo has already been proven to be a liar; that’s a fact. If anybody wants to see his propaganda movie -go in knowing that’s all it is. He edits, cuts, etc. He does it very well to slant his bias lying hate spew to people that don’t know any better.
Just one example:

I’ve seen many others to already know this piece of fat crap movie is full of it![/qoute]

Lumpy, sorry for the late reply - I don’t read these much on weekends.

You got your quotes mixed up. I am not, nor was I ever, a journalism major. Someone else said that.

Secondly, the point was not to convince anyone that the majority of the media is liberal with the statistics - the point is to show, by the journalists own admission, that there is no looming conservative bias in media, an assertion made here frequently and stupidly.

In short Lumpy, I wasn’t proving that the majority was liberal, I was proving that the majority was not conservative.

Keep up.

Goldberg - have you no response to my post on Bush’s lie, or is your only response to resort to this, ahem, non-issue.

“I would like to see him try and convince some of my Iraqi freinds that removing sadam was a bad thing.”

–>Perhaps he might only ask if your friends if any of their family members or friends were among the 15,000 civilians that have died since we got there.

“He edits, cuts, etc. He does it very well to slant his bias lying hate spew to people that don’t know any better.”

–>Are you troubled, then, by FOX news, who pushes a 100% conservative agenda and disguises it as fair and balanced? They also own like 40% share of cable news ratings…how frightening is that!?

Bigmartin…you wanna know why some of us point out his fatness and his overall grimeyness and dirty…unwashed hobo look ??? because often times someone who cannot manage his body and lets it get distorted like that CANNOT manage his emotions. Lots of schizophrenic…paranoid delsusional and schizoaffective disorder patients…present as Moore does.

NOW…maybe he has a thyroid problem or a hygiene disorder that he cannot control…and maybe he is on thorazine/zoloft and Seroquel…I don’t know for sure…but external appearances like that give INTERNAL clues! and his pretty much seems MESSED UP all around!

I don’t see how it’s possible to be anti-american AND a bush hater. Bush is deeply ANTI-American. His biggest achievement is to make a large number of people believe that to disagree with him is to be UNpatriotic. It seems to me that the opposite is the case. Economically the man is wrecking the country, shoring up enormous problems for the next twenty years. He has managed to turn almost the entire civilised world against him and he is obviously not very intelligent. I like Americans. I don’t like Bush.

Yeah…the biggest spurt of job growth since the early nineties and he is WRECKING the economy!!haha!..where do some of these posters come from???

Mago,

Great post!!! Actually, everything you said is completely wrong.

Our economy is rolling (please see the JOBS!!! thread started by me). France/Germany/Russia are not the only members of the civilized world. In fact, France was on the take big time from Saddam. So were an unknown number of the “civilized U.N.”

It’s too bad that the people who are “angry” with the U.S. didn’t see fit to deal with the growing menace of Saddam. If their anger is what we have to endure to do what is clearly right, then so be it.

Has anyone EVER said on this forum that criticizing George Bush made you unpatriotic?

The unpatriotic comments come when certain people seem happy during times of difficulty in Iraq. This isn’t a Republican War. Please see the number of Democrats who voted to authorize the war (this includes John Kerry).

Jeff

P.S. Please keep posting.

I understand what your saying…the reason comments like this upset me is becuase my dad and grandpa operate a multi million dollar construction and landscaping buisness and they both wear the same dirty ass clothes every day…when they go out to eat or soemthing both of them millionares wear dirty over-alls and flannels…they also rarely shave…when i was a kid my dad was like i want you to meet a very important man so we went over to see this guy at a local restaruant this guy looked like crap …so i said ot my dad why is he so poor if he is so important my dad looked at me and said never judge a man by how he looks…that man was the head of monarch bevarage he sold it to a company known as budweiser for more money than you can imagine he also owns his own trucking line…at that moment i learned in the real world you can never judge any one by there looks…look at louie simmons this guy is the greatest mind in strength training in a industry where most respectable coaches wear polo shirt’s and kakie shorts every time i see louie he is wearing a budweiser hat, army boots, and wall-mart cloth shorts…I understand you may not like michel moore…like i said i dont agree with everything he says…but he is a smart guy who has worked very hard to get where he is at…you may not beleive in what he does but go after his beleifs not his appereance…it would be the same thing if you didnt like loui simmons way of training and instead of talking about training you kept saying shit about his apperance and clothes…even if i disagreed with everything moore has said i would still respect him because he is doing what he beleives in…I just dont see a need for going after what a man looks like becuase we all are diffirent…if we were all the same it would get hell of boring around here…bm

All your points are well taken. But since he is working in a public type job (Louie Simmons is NOT a slob…he has plenty of muscle and “looks” like a powerlifter…not a slobbish hobo), he should at least bath and look presentable. Again, being in the medical field…maybe he has a problem with his thyroid or maybe he is mentally ill as I stated. Like it or NOT…looks DO matter…and they somewhat can reflect what is going on mentally.
The fact that the military has dress and appearance criteria for the wear of our uniform DOES convey pride and respect for ourselves and our professional appearance. These things DO matter.
If he wants to get taken more seriously OUTSIDE of his movies…which he does by the fact that he makes appearances and goes off on his own OUTSIDE of his movie commentary…he SHOULD consider other peoples perceptions…because for them…perception IS reality!

bm, nice post man.

Jeff, in response to the following…

Has anyone EVER said on this forum that criticizing George Bush made you unpatriotic?

Hmm, if not, I have seen people (Americans) being called self-hating Anti-Americans for criticizing Bush. Does that count?

vroom said

“Don’t like liberals? Learn to make an argument and convince them that what you are saying is correct. Liberals will often actually listen to a good argument if you have one.”

On this one I call Bullshit.

Talking to a liberal is like talking to a brick wall.

As for Michael “Fat Bastard” Moore he want get the sweat off my nut sack, much less one dime of my hard earned money for this, or any other of his piece of shit movies.

The facts regarding the terrible tragedy at Columbine are well documented. Also, there is a ton of history, and ample current information available about the NRA.

If you want to know the facts, then by all means know the facts. Afterwards, watch the piece of shit movie, Bowling for Columbine.

If, after all of this, you still think that Michael Moore has any value as a film maker, then give up on life, you do not have the ability to think for yourself.

big_martin but were not talking about your family I am sure your father worked hard to be where he’s at and is not displacing false truths about our president.

Mr. Moore is! So what if we called him names. He’s doing a disservice to this country by bashing the president. Also, Mr.Moore is reaping the benifits of bashing President Bush.

In Health,

Silas C.

Fitone, just how much do you want to silence Moore? Would you like to shut him down? Would you like to beat him up? I support his right to play this film, just like I support the for the Ku Klux Klan to march down the street and express their hatred to everything that is not a dip-wit, redneck, backwards ass, pot-bellied, cousin kisser! I don’t agree with them, but I support their right to do so.

Not only that, I would like to point out that he is driven to what he does because of his sense of outrage. It is because he loves America that he makes these films. Kind of a Robin Hood persona.

This comment makes me realize that you have NOT watched the preview. What are you pretending not to know here? Watch the clip I speak of… See if there is any edit between his comments that I quoted. Don’t be afraid… Just watch it.

Fitone, you will at least be in a city where you can watch it on June 25. LA and NYC are part of the limited release it is getting. You have to watch it first and come back in and report about it to us.

fitone thats fine if you belive that then say it like you did and I respect that…you may not have the same beleifs in what he does but go after his beleifs not his appereance…thats all im saying…you could have made me believe what you want me to beleive about moore with out attaking what his looks to me thats mature and respectfull…bm

http://mooreorpig.com/

Thats pretty good doogie…
He is what he is…

Robin HOOD

hahahah…you liberals must read a different version of Robin Hood then the rest of the world. Perhaps thats why you dont get it when people tell you that government should not go around stealing from the rich and giving to the poor, ala Robin Hood.

The fictional character Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor. GAVE BEING THE IMPORTANT WORD THERE. Michael Moore might be stealing some money using his bullshit shrills, but the only thing he is giving is giving himself a fatter wallet.

No wonder you are all so confused. The whole reading comrehension thing really needs to be stressed a little more, especially in those Blue states. :slight_smile:

PtrDr
I just wanted to make a comment regarding your response to Big Martin about what appearance reflects. Just like you stated an over weight disheveled appearance can dictate a mental condition, so can an obsession with ones appearance. Many that are diagnosed with a narcissistic borderline personality disorder will go out of their way to draw attention to their appearance even going so far as to post their pictures on internet websites! Although they go out of their way to improve their external appearance internally their are in a hell we can only imagine. Just food for thought!