Experiences With The Paranormal?

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One day I was lying on my back in a room of my house, dont ask me why, I had a very very tiny pellicule of water on my eyes. I looked at the light of the room and I could see every molecule of the water in a little screen. Like there was alot of big molecule with 1 big atom with 2 little atom to it with several little atoms going everywhere. It lasted about 5min, until I decided to do something else. It never came back.
I really think it could have been some kind of crazy optic occurance.

Another day I took too much anti-sneezing med and for 3sec I say some tentacule oozing over me (I was in my bed)

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Of course there are no ghosts. Just like religion it is a figment of the hyper-active human imagination. Our brains are complicated and they can play tricks with us.

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The saying comes to mind you have to have seen it to beilieve it.
personally, i beilieve a couple of years ago i nearly died in a car crash and when i was lying in the bed in hospital i saw my grandfather come over and sit on the bed and whispering to me “your dad needs you adam”.

By this point my grandfather had been dead seven years, we were such good friends when he was alive like every guy is friends with his grandfather. But when he died i felt like a piece of me had been torn away, but i always thought that he was in some way looking after me.

I’m not a firm believer in religion, it harnesses the fear of the unknown that humans inherently have and uses that fear for their own nefarious ways.

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[quote]SrJoker wrote:
The saying comes to mind you have to have seen it to beilieve it.
personally, i beilieve a couple of years ago i nearly died in a car crash and when i was lying in the bed in hospital i saw my grandfather come over and sit on the bed and whispering to me “your dad needs you adam”. By this point my grandfather had been dead seven years, we were such good friends when he was alive like every guy is friends with his grandfather. But when he died i felt like a piece of me had been torn away, but i always thought that he was in some way looking after me.
I’m not a firm believer in religion, it harnesses the fear of the unknown that humans inherently have and uses that fear for their own nefarious ways.[/quote]

That’s the thing, we’ll never really know until we die. You really could have seen your grandfather, or it could have been something your mind conjured up in your state of shock.

We all just have to wait and see, I’d like to experience something truly paranormal.

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PSI wheels are thermal in nature: Uncovered psi wheel

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[quote]Vegita wrote:
Rational Gaze wrote:
Fuzzyapple wrote:
I wonder if you believe in it more does it happen to you more? Cause I personally do not believe in the paranormal. However, watching videos and hearing stories makes one wonder.

My father has the ability to for see things that are going to happen in dreams he has and can tell when something bad is going to happen or something is coming on to him.

It’s called confirmation bias. For example, suppose you believe that you always “feel” someone looking at you from behind. Then every time you turn round and see someone looking at you, you will think that it was significant, ignoring all of the times you turned round and no one was looking at you.

Vegita wrote:
Secondly, I can spin a PSI wheel. Youtube it I don’t feel like explaining it, and yes I beleive it is real, anyone can claim other people are doing it as a hoax, but when you try it yourself and it works, there is something to it.

Well, I could easily duplicate the psi wheel effect with convection, but that would not prove anything. There is absolutely no evidence of anything paranormal.

Yea, Yea, Like I said, there are hundreds of know it alls who will explain away anything. First off I didn’t even explain my setup so what you assume I have my hand right next to it? Well I don’t I can sit 5 Ft away from it with something covering my mouth and nose and arms crossed in front of me. And get it to spin both directions. Yet if left alone the setup doesn’t spin at all let alone flutter. Like I said, I was skeptical, but it’s as real as it gets, I don’t care if you believe me or not, i’m just pointing out to others here that there are people who will simply make any attempt to discredit paranormal things, even if they have to make baseless assumptions. AND to further discredit the convection theory, I routinely held a lighter flame the same distance as I would hold my hand (when I first started and had my hand next to it) and the flame would do no more than flutter the wheel. Also if it were convection, the movement would be somewhat consistant, like air moving over a fan blade. It is n ot, it wobbles, jumps to a spin and then stops abruptly, spins smoothly for numerous rotations only to change directions. Convection is not responsible for these movements.

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Can you move heavy objects across a a flat surface without getting near them too, in the same manner as described above? If not, then you’re only fooling yourself.

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[quote]SrJoker wrote:
The saying comes to mind you have to have seen it to beilieve it.
personally, i beilieve a couple of years ago i nearly died in a car crash and when i was lying in the bed in hospital i saw my grandfather come over and sit on the bed and whispering to me “your dad needs you adam”.

By this point my grandfather had been dead seven years, we were such good friends when he was alive like every guy is friends with his grandfather. But when he died i felt like a piece of me had been torn away, but i always thought that he was in some way looking after me.

I’m not a firm believer in religion, it harnesses the fear of the unknown that humans inherently have and uses that fear for their own nefarious ways.[/quote]

I truly hope that people don’t use their hospital experiences to validate their beliefs! You’re already in a heightened emotional state and there’s a real good chance that you’ve been given some medicine that can make you hallucinate or make you extremely confused.

A week doesn’t go by where at my job some nut case starts hallucinating. The most recent was a man who kept talking to himself. Turns out… he was having a conversation with his cat from home. The cat was telling him we were putting poison in his IV line.

I suppose we should think it was a mischievous ghost and not a figment of his imagination.

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I never had any experiences, but I have known many people who have.

M wife is one example.

When my wife was a teenager living at home she used to feel a presence in her bedroom (insert joke here). She couldnâ??t see it, she could only feel its presence. But from the sensation of its presence, she had a mental picture of what it looked like. Generally it would appear while she was alone in her bedroom in the afternoon after school, just reading, or daydreaming. She could feel the presence enter the room. She said that her impression that the presence was of an old woman, thin, frail, and dressed very formal. The presence would come into her bedroom, cross the room, and then sit in a rocking chair in the corner. The old woman would sit in the rocking chair and direct its hatred at her. My wife said that she never felt so much hate projected from any one as much as from this old woman. It was absolute bitter hatred and malevolence. Like the presence was trying to â??willâ?? that awful things should happen to my wife. She felt that this old woman knew her and that she somehow knew this old woman from before. My wife would be so scared that she couldnâ??t move. After a while, the old woman would get up from the chair and leave.

Once when my wife and I were in her bedroom (we were just boyfriend-girlfriend back then), I noticed that my wife was looking nervous and upset. I went down the usual laundry list of things which might have upset her (work, family issues, etc.). When I noticed that she was looking at the rocking chair, I asked her, â??Is she here?â?? Thank God my wife said, â??No.â?? But I have to admit I got a little scared when she added, â??She just left.â??

True story.

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I used to live in a house for a year or so that was apparently ‘haunted’ by a small girl. I never felt totally at ease in that house after hearing stories of strange things that had happened there. Before I lived there the ‘ghost’ had a strange dislike for closed doors. Once after closing the Kitchen door; one previous resident re-entered the kitchen shortly after to be greeted with all the cupboard doors opened. Another previous resident (a girl) reported waking one night to find this small girl staring at her from across the room.

Well I slept in that particular room, and let me tell you it was VERY cold in there, I also witnessed strange ‘orbs’ and lights moving across the room on occasions.
The weirdest thing that happened there though was whilst I lived there, we were having a party.
One of our female friends had gone to the toilet just down the hallway whilst everyone else happily carried on drinking in the living room. Shortly after this girl came back into the room complaining and accusing someone of trying to get into the toilet whilst she was doing her ‘business’. According to her she had struggled with someone trying to open the door, she had tugged on the handle and shouted to stop whomever it was trying to enter. Thing is, no-one from our party had left the living room in that time.

Often women are more receptive to these kind of experiences.
I’ve witnessed odd things in the past myself and know some people who experience things like this regularly, unfortunately they are more tuned to the paranormal than others, and happen to live in a particularly ‘active’ property.

I believe that every place has some kind of history and ‘echo’ of the past that is left behind by the people who had a strong link to that place, and that some people are more readily able to perceive such things.

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[quote]DOA215 wrote:
A week doesn’t go by where at my job some nut case starts hallucinating. The most recent was a man who kept talking to himself. Turns out… he was having a conversation with his cat from home. The cat was telling him we were putting poison in his IV line.

I suppose we should think it was a mischievous ghost and not a figment of his imagination.[/quote]

Hehe, I got a pretty good chuckle from that!

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[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
Vegita wrote:
Yea, Yea, Like I said, there are hundreds of know it alls who will explain away anything. First off I didn’t even explain my setup so what you assume I have my hand right next to it?

Well, if you read what I said, I made no assumptions about your “setup.” What I said was that you could easily duplicate the results without inventing some explanation relying on psychic powers. And I don’t know why you think convection would produce regular perturbations of the wheel, heat convection is highly non-linear.

I don’t have to go out of my way to discredit paranormal phenomena, the people making the claims usually do a good job of that themselves by drawing conclusions that have no basis in the available evidence, or by appealing to theories that are completely untestable. A good example would be “negative energy.” Since there is no definition of negative energy, and it cannot be measured, it’s very easy to give it any properties you like.[/quote]

Seriously, this is not the place for your “debunking” there are thousands of websites you can go spout your ignorance and backtracking doubletalk on. You Said " Well, I could easily duplicate the psi wheel effect with convection, but that would not prove anything. There is absolutely no evidence of anything paranormal." I mean right there you claim you could duplicate it with convection and then in this response you claim convection would not produce “regular perturbations of the wheel” I mean way to try to sound smart and use big words so people look past the fact that you just said the opposite of what you were arguing in the last post. Either convection could spin the psi wheel in a simple manner, in the same manner as the heat coming off my hand (were it next to it) or it could not. Also what if the room is 98 degrees, there would be no difference in themperature from my hand to the air, and thus no minor air currents.

The second part of your statement is also a canny dodge attempt. “There is absolutely no evidence of anything paranormal” This is convienient, the wheel spins, I can prove it is not heat off my hand, or air from my mouth or nose, and if left alone in a calm room will absolutely not spin, yet there is no “evidence” of paranormal? What would you consider evidence? Glowing energy waves radiating off me like it’s some DBZ episode? I have heard all your debunking theories 1000 or more times and every time someone like me answers them, you change tactics, arguments, or the discussion alltogether.

For instance you wrote in your last reply. “I don’t have to go out of my way to discredit paranormal phenomena, the people making the claims usually do a good job of that themselves by drawing conclusions that have no basis in the available evidence, or by appealing to theories that are completely untestable. A good example would be “negative energy.” Since there is no definition of negative energy, and it cannot be measured, it’s very easy to give it any properties you like.” You don’t have to go out of your way, yet here you are writing on an message board trying to tell me that what I did was fake, what do you gain from this? Why do it, you don’t have to. Secondly, tell me exactly where I drew a conclusion that totally flies in the face of logic? I didn’t so you can’t, you just threw that out there as another negative tag to try to associate me with someone sometiem that may have done that. I certainly did not. Guilt by association is one of your tactics. Negative energy? Now you are changing the topic to something I didn’t talk about and somehow trying to relate it’s unprovability with spinning a psi wheel. I can prove I can spin a psi wheel, I sit down with one and spin it, you watch, there is nothing moving in the room, yet it spins, this is proof. You don’t need to see or measure something to know it’s there. I’m pretty sure black holes exist, yet you can’t see or directly measure them, you have to view how things around the black hole behave, thier orbital rates and such. Your argument is weak and your tactics shady, please go away and leave this thread to people who are interested in this stuff.

V

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[quote]Lurker27 wrote:
PSI wheels are thermal in nature: http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Uncovered%20psi%20wheel.html[/quote]

Thats great, explain it moving in two directions, and also how I can do it sitting 3-5 feet away from it. Nice try, If the guy wanted to do a real test, he would heat an inanimate object like a stone up to about 100 degrees and place it in the same positions as his hands. Using his hands at all doesn’t prove anything because it is always possible that his energy is effecting the expirament. If he wants to test it can be done with no human energy signal near it why would he use his hands?

I actually requested on the Mytbusters website for them to test this out but for some reason it has never gotten on the show, there are some poeple on the message board who are VERY against the mythbusters doing this and I just can’t understand why. They so no science fiction or magic type stuff but I have seen them test some pretty rediculous things, and this one at the very least has some very stong arguments for it’s testing.

It’s absolutely worth 10 minutes of TV time. I’m also sure that they would test it without any bias like some peoploe attempt to. They would use scientific methods and instruments most of us just don’t have access to. Oh well, maybe some day they will do it.

V

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[quote]RSGZ wrote:
Vegita wrote:
Rational Gaze wrote:
Fuzzyapple wrote:
I wonder if you believe in it more does it happen to you more? Cause I personally do not believe in the paranormal. However, watching videos and hearing stories makes one wonder.

My father has the ability to for see things that are going to happen in dreams he has and can tell when something bad is going to happen or something is coming on to him.

It’s called confirmation bias. For example, suppose you believe that you always “feel” someone looking at you from behind. Then every time you turn round and see someone looking at you, you will think that it was significant, ignoring all of the times you turned round and no one was looking at you.

Vegita wrote:
Secondly, I can spin a PSI wheel. Youtube it I don’t feel like explaining it, and yes I beleive it is real, anyone can claim other people are doing it as a hoax, but when you try it yourself and it works, there is something to it.

Well, I could easily duplicate the psi wheel effect with convection, but that would not prove anything. There is absolutely no evidence of anything paranormal.

Yea, Yea, Like I said, there are hundreds of know it alls who will explain away anything. First off I didn’t even explain my setup so what you assume I have my hand right next to it? Well I don’t I can sit 5 Ft away from it with something covering my mouth and nose and arms crossed in front of me. And get it to spin both directions. Yet if left alone the setup doesn’t spin at all let alone flutter. Like I said, I was skeptical, but it’s as real as it gets, I don’t care if you believe me or not, i’m just pointing out to others here that there are people who will simply make any attempt to discredit paranormal things, even if they have to make baseless assumptions. AND to further discredit the convection theory, I routinely held a lighter flame the same distance as I would hold my hand (when I first started and had my hand next to it) and the flame would do no more than flutter the wheel. Also if it were convection, the movement would be somewhat consistant, like air moving over a fan blade. It is n ot, it wobbles, jumps to a spin and then stops abruptly, spins smoothly for numerous rotations only to change directions. Convection is not responsible for these movements.

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Can you move heavy objects across a a flat surface without getting near them too, in the same manner as described above? If not, then you’re only fooling yourself.[/quote]

I’m not sure why you made this argument, doesn’t really make sense to me. Should I go throw 2,000lbs on a deadlift bar and say to you, if you can’t deadlift this weight, then you are fooling yourself to think you could deadlift 100lbs. Basically what i’m saying is if a non-physical or “mostly” nonphysical energy interacts with a physical object, why would one assume that the regular laws of physics such as mass, gravity, acceleration etc… would just dissapear. Perhaps with enough practice, meditation and time, I could get to the point of rolling a pen on a flat surface. I’m not sure what good that would do me, if I want to roll a pen, it’s much easier to just roll it with my hand or possibly blowing on it.

Psi wheeling to me is a fun excercise in concentration, nothing more nothing less. I don’t think anyone will realistically be ever to develop the ability to use thier non-physical energy to manipulate physical objects in any meaningful way. No one is going to be doing things like in Push, just aint happening.

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I had a few encounters when I was in college. I worked at a Hotel that had previously been a school. I had a lot of small things like doors opening up in front of me, tv’s coming on in rooms that no one was staying in, phones ringing off the hook with no one calling. One particular instance went like this. I worked 3rd shift at the front desk, a lot of times alone with no one else in the hotel.

We are in a rural area and sometimes I would be alone there with no guest staying. I arrived at work around 11 pm. At 12 an older couple called the front desk with a noise complaint. Apparently there had been some children outside their room running and laughing. I went out to check it out but couldn’t find anything. They called to complain again, so I checked it out.

I heard the giggling in the hallway and ran up but when I got around the corner they were already gone. The couple called again, so I finally got pissed and decided to look at the guest log and find out who had kids staying with them. I searched the logs, but it turned out that the couple were the only ones staying in the hotel, there was no one else. It was pretty freaky.

I also have a video that was filmed of a friend going off a rope swing. There’s some white noise in it and at the very beginning you can hear a voice saying, “Be quiet in the library.” We heard it a few weeks later while viewing the video on the computer. It’s definately none of the girls in the boat. And we didn’t find some way to put the voice in.

We researched the lake and found out there had been a graveyard close by and that graves had been moved when the lake was built. There were also buildings still underwater that had been flooded out when the lake was made and filled. Here’s a link. take it for what it’s worth.

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Ghosthunters. 'Nuff said.

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[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
Fuzzyapple wrote:
I wonder if you believe in it more does it happen to you more? Cause I personally do not believe in the paranormal. However, watching videos and hearing stories makes one wonder.

My father has the ability to for see things that are going to happen in dreams he has and can tell when something bad is going to happen or something is coming on to him.

It’s called confirmation bias. For example, suppose you believe that you always “feel” someone looking at you from behind. Then every time you turn round and see someone looking at you, you will think that it was significant, ignoring all of the times you turned round and no one was looking at you.

Vegita wrote:
Secondly, I can spin a PSI wheel. Youtube it I don’t feel like explaining it, and yes I beleive it is real, anyone can claim other people are doing it as a hoax, but when you try it yourself and it works, there is something to it.

Well, I could easily duplicate the psi wheel effect with convection, but that would not prove anything. There is absolutely no evidence of anything paranormal.[/quote]

Pretty much. Have you read any of Derren Brown’s stuff on medieval charlatanry? Pretty interesting stuff.

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Kinda creepy. This thread just made me not want to sleep.

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This experience of mine happened when I was about six years old. In my room, my bed used to be next to a window. One day I looked out of the window to see if any of my friends were at the sandbox playing and I felt something grab my right leg. I looked down in panic and it was a man’s hand that reached from somewhere under my bed. I ran to the living room yelling my dad without this hand really trying to stop me.

When my dad checked the room with me there was nothing under the bed. I’m sure it wasn’t a dream and it wasn’t just an illusion because I really felt something grab my leg. It sure as hell wasn’t real either because there’s no way a man could have sneaked under my bed and then suddenly disappear with all windows and doors closed. I still have no idea what really happened that day. This experience troubled me for a while, for months I used to always check first what was under my bed when I entered my room.

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A few years ago my dad passed away when I was still in high school. A couple of days after his death we had guests over and I had a big exam I had to study for the next day. My dad always reminded me the importance of education so this was instilled in me. I was sitting there with the guests around 9pm when I thought, “Dad I have to study, I wish you could just make them leave.” Not 10 seconds later, my dads truck alarm went off. The damn thing never went off, so I go outside to check it, and there is no one around, nothing had touched the car, it just went off. I had to look for the keys all over the house, when I found them upstairs in my room by my school bag.