Glad you mentioned this. I have ugl adex and I became suspicious of it as well. After further research the machine used by big pharma to dose pills of this MG are extreamly expensive “powder mixers” essentially that sift/mix the active ingredients +binders so that you get exact dosage. The chances of a UGL having this equipment are probably slim granted some UGLs are damn near professional operations so I’m sure some do. What I have done and I think it’s helping is the vodka/ml solution I’m sure the dosage is still no where close but its helping until I get my pharma grade aromasin
These ARE symptoms, high blood pressure, extensive water retention typically become before gynecomastia, if this is the case use of an ai or lowering of dose may be nessecary. Cancer… Anabolic steroids in general are carcinogenic, high levels of estrogen are nothing compared to the increased risk of cancer AAS use causes from hepatic stress (c17AA), oxidive stress, increased igf-1 and various cell upregulation… Wait for side effects to appear and then decide, I’m not saying wait for gyno, I’m saying if you get extensive water retention or HBP then use, because going straight to an AI puts more strain on the lipid profile and puts you at risk for crashing estrogen which has a whole other set of sides (cardiovascular, mental, sexual function etc).
What? No, firstly the amount of test (and other hormones) that convert to estrogen is different for everyone (genetics, bf percentage, amt of aromatisation etc), secondly the amt of test that converts to estrogen in my knowledge is like less than .5%, 156pg/ml = 15.4 Ng/DL… So 150mg of The isn’t converting to E…
Secondly 50pg/ml is around the cutoff for normal in men (according to some ref ranges), what were your testosterone levels, if they were around 3x the top of the ref range and you had no symptoms then an AI in my opinion was unessecary. If you ask me it isn’t stupid to not use an AI if one is without symptoms, quite the contrary, it’s using less drugs and is an overall smarter approach than polypharmacy.
Aromatise inhibitors were originally developed for people with ER positive breast cancer to crush estrogen down to zero, not for a dude with high estrogen (that is within ratio to his testosterone) who wants to bring it down because he’s using test
How much test were you using? If you were using like 500mg/wk that E2 is totally fine if you don’t have symptoms
Not being able to sleep for 4 days might just be due to androgenic nervous system stimulation. How’s you’re sleep now? Anyway props to having a doc monitering you, that’s one of the best things you can do on gear.
Sorry for the late reply I’ve been super busy lately
Thanks for the info, I always make threads here when doing something new while on cycle. I’m going to get aromasin now to my other source and start taking it as soon as i can. My last injecton was today, and i took .75 adex today also. Im gonna get new bloodworks next week i have an appointment with my doc on the 5th. Adex has half life of 3 days so should i wait 3 days to take 12.5 aromasin and then every 3 days after that?and also what I understand from your comment is that elevated estrogen levels are ok ad long as T levels are 3x higher in T/E ratio? I’m trying to do this cycle as close to perfection as I can and after the cycle im gonna try dr.scally’s restart protocol. I’m an addict (sober for more then 2 years) but my last cycle was very stupid and fucked my natural production and have been on nebido for 2 yrs so i decided to do a cycle while i wait for nebido to leave the system
Ok so explain to me why you freak out when there are points to be made. And anyways the half life of dbol is 3-5 hours !?
I don’t see where I freaked out. If pointing out a false and misleading statement is freaking out then I don’t know what to tell you.
This all started while telling this cat to split up his dbol in 2 to keep it in your blood and you say I’m wrong ?? Then why take it once a day ?? The half life is 2-3 hours, so I was correct , I’m not no troller I have alot of experience, 30 to be exact ! But If you prove me wrong I’ll man up and take it as a new lesson. But when I know something is correct I’m gonna keep on going to prove my point ! ![]()
Except you misunderstand what a half life is. Full stop. It’s a scientific term. It has one meaning. The meaning you gave is verifiably wrong. Now you may have arrived at the right conclusion (which is neither here nor there, since the difference between dosing protocols is not noticeable in any meaningful way), but the way you got there was genuinely wrong. I find that the right answer the wrong way isn’t a sustainable proposition for long term success. So rather than telling a member here something that is flatly false, you could just learn something about the science and call it a win.
OMG please Google it , if what your saying is true then why do. 90% of people split it up ? Bro please teach yourself you are completely wrong and I’ll knowledged !
Brother…the juice isn’t worth the squeeze here.
Since math is hard for you…
Compound X, half life of 9hrs, 50mg
0 hr- 50mg
9 hr- 25mg
18hr- 12.5mg
27hr- 6.25mg
36hr- 3.125mg
So aside from being wrong, you’ve chosen to dig in. I don’t mind people being mistaken, because we all are from time to time. But what I do mind is someone who is unremittingly stupid and still has a high enough opinion of their supposed knowledge that they insist on making the bold argument to “Google it”. Sigh.
In the Jewish community we call this kind of person a “choochem”, it’s one of my favorite words, it’s like a person who is arrogant and thus isnt open to critisicm or others opinions because they’re so sure they’re right (think like 99% of teenagers haha)
My twin brother (fraternal) is the biggest choochem I know, we don’t get along because I find him to be a jerk, I’ve changed his contact name in my phone to choochem… I’m thinking of changing my middle name to choochem, depends how far I’m willing to take the joke, currently there doesn’t appear to be an end in sight with regard to how stupid I’m going to get with the choochem thing
Ok my bad but your idiot ass that is godly knowledgable half life in dbol is 2-3 hours. Explain that wanna be !! I’d love to see pics of you and not a queer from GQ ,. I know you would try that ! Prove your knowledge by showing us your amazing abilities to make shit up
Firstly, hl is 3-6 hrs, secondly, this means every 3-6 hrs half of the drug will have left the body so 0 hrs you take 100mg, 3-6 HR later you have 50mg in you’re system. Stop being so immature and man the fuck up you giant choochem, you were wrong, deal with it, who cares.
“I have 50mg anavra tablets and i want to do 50mg”
“also at what times should i take the anavar?”
Title of the thread is “Estrogen and anavare dosage”
You’re the only one talking about dbol, dimwit. See, dbol and anavar aren’t actually the same thing. I know you may be unfamiliar with the concept, but words actually mean things. Anything else? Or can we be done here?
You’re soliciting other men for shirtless pictures…maybe stop projecting your insecurities about your own sexuality and just be honest with what you want. We don’t judge here, champ.
Listen here lady just post a picture so we can all laugh at you, that’s why your defensive, cause you are nothing with a big cocksucking mouth
And wow you really got to me by call me a fag LMAO , you know I’m right and you are wrong !
So you might think you’re winning this argument but in reality I’m currently laughing at you… And I’m fairly sure @iron_yuppie is too. This is 2019, sucking cock isn’t a big deal anymore… It’s a shitty insult
Certainly doesn’t seem as if you’re right from where I’m standing, you sound like a butthurt kid who just got schooled by an older, wiser individual and you’re having a tantrum about it.
Thaaaaaats more like it
But seriously if you can’t have a civil debate/argument without resorting to insults then get the fuck off this forum
Thank you… havent even replied to my own post because from where I’m sitting i see a child arguing about something wrong and derailing the thread. Anuways. I upped the anavar to 100mg, 50mg twice a day, about the aromasin. I took 12,5 mg yesterday, waited 3 days since i took arimidex, then in 2 days ill take another 12,5mg and ill continue to do so until i get my bloodwork done ok monday ill post both estrogen And t levels here cause i valur your inpit… well from most of you anyways