Just found out I have serious estrogen issues.
Should have seen the signs, but they didn’t become obvious until I did my first cycle just now. Equipoise shouldn’t give estrogen sides at the dosages I’ve been on, but boy did I get them…
I actually had some gyno and bloat naturally, as it disappeared with nolva or ari. :-s
Last year has seen a dramatic drop off in strength and recuperative ability.
Just thought age and a couple of injuries were starting to catch up on me, but now I suspect my hormones were getting really out of whack, as reading up on the matter caused me to recognize the excessive estrogen symptoms.
Didn?t get a blood test before my cycle, something I really regret now with what I?ve learned since.
Also noticed that my prostate had been creeping up on me, as it reacted violently to the increased estrogen levels. Dropping estrogen with ari solved the problem though.
So, as for the future, TRT is virtually unavailable in Norway, as most of the medical profession here does not recognize male aging and dropping T levels as a problem.
So, self medication is the way to go unfortunately.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
KSman wrote:
That is a good on-TRT starting dose until labs or other suggest adjustments. With a later lab, with E2=Y as the result and E2=22 the goal, new dose would be old_dose x Y/22
All need to understand the implications of been an adex over-responder.
I started the Arimidex at .25 mg EOD. Felt great for 2 or 3 weeks, then everything kind of disappeared and my libido crashed. I feel like the dentist who was trying to drill my 6 year old daughter’s tooth and the target keeps moving!
AAARRRRGGGHHHH! ;>
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How was your experience with renewman? I’m considering this in the future.
I have a few basic questions re: these hormone levels. I am 43 and absolutely do not have the same libido or sports stamina as I did only a few short years ago.
I had some major surgery, quit smoking and was bed bound for a few months.
During recovery I feel into a bad depression w full blown horrendous eating all while being sedentary.
Dropping LBs was never an issue before as my weight has always fluctuated (but never like this…I gained 40 LBS of…FAT and lost some muscle)
Now losing the weight is hard and I want my body to help me not hurt me due to my probably screwed up/low hormones.
I am now starting to eat and walk and pick up some weights for the first time in 18 months!
My question - given my age and body composition (obese) I am sure my body is not a raging T machine.
What, if anything can I be taking?
Should I try Adex?
C and Zinc (w copper)
Alpha Male (which appears from readings here it may not be effective as possible due to E)
Grape Seed extract?
My main issue is body composition and libido as I am sure my body is set to work against me - is there anything I can start ?
Any suggestions? I have read PAGES of these threads and have info overload so I don’t know what I should try.
Thanks
Thank you!!
If I do these at LEF will the results/readings be given w an interpretation or a comparison of what normal range #s should be?
Also, how would I know how far out of the norm would be a concern and what action should be taken once I have the tests taken?
Thank you again.
How close is .25 mgs of liquidex to 1/4 tab of the pill form of adex? I have heard the citrate form of it is a little less potent then the pill form…I was just curious. How many of you swtich from the pill form and got the same testing results from using the liquid form in the same exact dosage.
I use a syringe to measure my liquidex using 25 ius for .25 mgs ,M,w,f. as to the ultrasenstive estrodial test I had serum and urine ran at same time and the goal is 10-15 (mid range like the 13-54 range, just to let people know…<29 does not relate anyway to the old scale of sensitive essay.
I always use the ultrasensitive one <29 and recommend people 10-15 is the sweet spot. Also since being on 20 mgs of DHEA my dhea levels where only 220.
I am trying to get them up to 450 to be in the health range, but when I increase the DHEA to 50 mgs (25 mgs BID) a day I notice an increase in e2 symptoms… ?Just increasing the armidex would help to offset this extra bump from the estrogen?
HAN,
You are correct about the need for increased adex when DHEA is increased. This statement isn’t true for everybody, but guys like you and I have an inclination to convert both T and DHEA to E2. If I read your post correctly, you take 0.25/mg of adex three days a week. I take 2-1/2mg’s a week of adex and I have the tabs from my doctor.
I have serious E2 conversion issues it appears. Being on TRT and HCG and taking 1mg/week of adex, my E2 crept up to 69 and did I ever feel awful. My doctor upped my dose to 2mg’s a week, and my next b/w said 13 on the 0 <=29 scale, and I felt pretty good again after a while, but alas, not long enough. I am now on 2-1/2mg’s week of adex, and shall we say my performance is “predictable”.
Even though I am pushing 49, I really don’t feel it most days.
You might want to try 1mg/week with the addition of the DHEA and see how you feel after two weeks. Good luck.
[quote]KNB wrote:
HAN,
You are correct about the need for increased adex when DHEA is increased. This statement isn’t true for everybody…[/quote]
Most males do not respond to more DHEA with more T. The exception would be when DHEA is low and that is limiting one’s DHEA–>T conversion. That would require enough LH [or hCG] to allow that process to proceed. If LH is low, DHEA may not increase T.
“Break down” is actually specific enzyme reactions. Using such words is misleading and creates mis understanding. We have enough idiots who think that DHEA is a promone and an anabolic steriod.
Is is something that I aspire to. I have lots of things that I have learned and material collected. Seem to be busy with the rest of my life lately… a very good thing. I keep learning from everyone that I work with as well. I also seem to do well with women’s’ hormone issues and just received a note about a great outcome today. My interests also wander to other obscure pathologies, luckily non of my own so far. I am nevertheless joe engineer and pathological fix-it guy.
I would like some recommendations on authoring software.
[quote]KSman wrote:
Is is something that I aspire to. I have lots of things that I have learned and material collected. Seem to be busy with the rest of my life lately… a very good thing. I keep learning from everyone that I work with as well.
I also seem to do well with women’s’ hormone issues and just received a note about a great outcome today. My interests also wander to other obscure pathologies, luckily non of my own so far. I am nevertheless joe engineer and pathological fix-it guy.
I would like some recommendations on authoring software.[/quote]
What kind of authoring do you mean? Outlining software that converts to text processing? Microsoft Publisher sorts of stuff?
A lot of good books have been formatted with Word/WordPerfect.
Depends if you need kerning or not.
The real key is setting it up so that you write and edit and typeset as separate tasks. Combining the three (which most software does) slows you down. Do one task at a time and you will find that you are moving much, much faster.
I would like some recommendations on authoring software.
What kind of authoring do you mean? Outlining software that converts to text processing? Microsoft Publisher sorts of stuff?
A lot of good books have been formatted with Word/WordPerfect.
Depends if you need kerning or not.
The real key is setting it up so that you write and edit and typeset as separate tasks. Combining the three (which most software does) slows you down. Do one task at a time and you will find that you are moving much, much faster.[/quote]
I guess that I do not have any idea where to start. Do you think that Word 7.0 would be up to the task. What do publishers accept. PM me so we do not hijack this.