[quote]pushharder wrote:
What a bunch of nice guys! How could you not sympathize with them?
Hamas reportedly executing tunnel diggers to keep locations secret
What is missing in this is the report from Hamas itself which proudly reported that 160 children died while digging these tunnels. The report was taken down–gotta love internet truth.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
What a bunch of nice guys! How could you not sympathize with them?
Hamas reportedly executing tunnel diggers to keep locations secret
What is missing in this is the report from Hamas itself which proudly reported that 160 children died while digging these tunnels. The report was taken down–gotta love internet truth.
From what I’ve been reading Abbas warned the Obama administration not to trust the Qataris during recent ceasefire negotiations - a warning that was ignored. The Qataris pretended to be trying to convince Hamas to come to the table when they were actually promising Hamas full support if they continued attacking Israel. It would seem the Obama administration is more radical than Fatah.
Qatar threatened to expel Khaled Meshaal if he agreed to Cairo truce. Qatar is funding Hamas and IS and has significant control/influence over the Taliban. And the Obama regime is being duped by them. Recall Pelosi’s statement that they assured her “time and time again that Hamas is a humanitarian organisation.”
[quote]pushharder wrote:
QATAR DENIES FUNDING ISLAMIC STATE TERRORISTS
As far as I understand ISIS were funded by Qatar until this year and then Qatar realised the monster that they created and have now stopped funding them. Too late of course as ISIL are now essentially self-funding.
Can anyone explain this to me please?
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Can anyone explain this to me please?
Explain what? And why is it of interest to you?
Ok, never mind.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Can anyone explain this to me please?
Explain what? And why is it of interest to you?[/quote]
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Ok, never mind.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Can anyone explain this to me please?
Explain what? And why is it of interest to you?[/quote]
[/quote]
I’d be alarmed, too, if I had to rely on the 1/2 story that gets put out.
Here’s a bit more.
The land used to be owned by absentee owners, probably Turkish, I’d have to look. From 1860 to probably 1950s, various groups bought the land from the owners to give to Jewish people/group/state — the Jewish Land Fund, the Rothschilds, whomever. This land was variously sold or given by the new owners by bequest to what is now the State of Israel.
Much of the land in the Judea (where this land is) and Gaza that is claimed by Arabs, is in fact, this land that was bought and sold in this manner.
To avoid outcries, Israel has generally not exercised dominion over any land that local Arabs (who were tenant farmers who now refuse to pay rent and claim their rented land as their own) or land that there is no particular use for.
Well, this was about 1,000 acres of such land legally owned by the State of Israel. There was no filed claim of private ownership by ANYONE to the contrary. And no tenant farmer was around to claim ownership. It’s empty scrub land.
So Israel exercised its legal right to its land – land that was bought and paid for and upon which no one was squatting — and is permitting a subdivision to be built in Judea.
Despite the fact they aren’t using the land, the more-or-less local Arabs don’t like Jews owing land and claim the land is “theirs” despite having no position in the chain-of-title from the Turkish/Ottoman sellers to the State of Israel on the sound theory that Jews are bad and can’t have land that Mohammed conquered.
The UN and everyone will agree with the Arabs on the equally sound legal basis that it is better to be unjustifiably outraged at Jews than telling the Arabs the truth because Arabs will run around London and Paris burning stuff and flipping cars unless you agree with them.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Gotta go with Gen. Curry on this one:
Israeli Spoils Of War
http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/11/israeli-spoils-of-war/[/quote]
What a naive article.
Israel just isn’t worth it to America, and will get less and less worth it as time goes on.
In what, 6 years, the majority of America will be non white. And non white people are still constantly being shot up and deported simply because of the colour of their skin.
You think that on a 20-30 year timeline those people are going to feel closer to the Israelis or closer to the Palestinians, given their own experience?
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Ok, never mind.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Can anyone explain this to me please?
Explain what? And why is it of interest to you?[/quote]
[/quote]
I’d be alarmed, too, if I had to rely on the 1/2 story that gets put out.
Here’s a bit more.
The land used to be owned by absentee owners, probably Turkish, I’d have to look. From 1860 to probably 1950s, various groups bought the land from the owners to give to Jewish people/group/state — the Jewish Land Fund, the Rothschilds, whomever. This land was variously sold or given by the new owners by bequest to what is now the State of Israel.
Much of the land in the Judea (where this land is) and Gaza that is claimed by Arabs, is in fact, this land that was bought and sold in this manner.
To avoid outcries, Israel has generally not exercised dominion over any land that local Arabs (who were tenant farmers who now refuse to pay rent and claim their rented land as their own) or land that there is no particular use for.
Well, this was about 1,000 acres of such land legally owned by the State of Israel. There was no filed claim of private ownership by ANYONE to the contrary. And no tenant farmer was around to claim ownership. It’s empty scrub land.
So Israel exercised its legal right to its land – land that was bought and paid for and upon which no one was squatting — and is permitting a subdivision to be built in Judea.
Despite the fact they aren’t using the land, the more-or-less local Arabs don’t like Jews owing land and claim the land is “theirs” despite having no position in the chain-of-title from the Turkish/Ottoman sellers to the State of Israel on the sound theory that Jews are bad and can’t have land that Mohammed conquered.
The UN and everyone will agree with the Arabs on the equally sound legal basis that it is better to be unjustifiably outraged at Jews than telling the Arabs the truth because Arabs will run around London and Paris burning stuff and flipping cars unless you agree with them.
[/quote]
In 1860 one could still buy slaves in America. Painting colonial sales as in any way legitimate is simply tragic and shows the silliness of the Israeli argument.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Qatar threatened to expel Khaled Meshaal if he agreed to Cairo truce. Qatar is funding Hamas and IS and has significant control/influence over the Taliban. And the Obama regime is being duped by them. Recall Pelosi’s statement that they assured her “time and time again that Hamas is a humanitarian organisation.”[/quote]
Qatar doesn’t fund IS and never have. IS is largely the Sunni Iraqi army that the Americans stupidly and naively disbanded.
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Ok, never mind.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Can anyone explain this to me please?
Explain what? And why is it of interest to you?[/quote]
[/quote]
Okay, let’s say for arguments sake that Jews didn’t actually pay for the land. Ever heard of the Lockean labour theory of property and the homestead principle? And don’t give me this picking olives for generations shit. Show me the olive plantation. POIDH. And this is without taking into account the actual legitimate territorial claims to WB arising from Balfour or the claims arising out of the Six Day War.
[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Qatar threatened to expel Khaled Meshaal if he agreed to Cairo truce. Qatar is funding Hamas and IS and has significant control/influence over the Taliban. And the Obama regime is being duped by them. Recall Pelosi’s statement that they assured her “time and time again that Hamas is a humanitarian organisation.”[/quote]
Qatar doesn’t fund IS and never have. IS is largely the Sunni Iraqi army that the Americans stupidly and naively disbanded. [/quote]
Qatar was funding and politically backing a Syrian opposition block that included dozens of different factions - beyond doubt much of the money filtered through to IS. Hell, it looks as if the US, Israel and Jordan are backing groups affiliated with AQ right now.
http://www.app.debka.com/n/article/24223/Israeli-forces-caught-up-in-Al-Qaedaâ??s-complex-toils-in-both-Golan-and-Gaza-
[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Ok, never mind.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Can anyone explain this to me please?
Explain what? And why is it of interest to you?[/quote]
[/quote]
I’d be alarmed, too, if I had to rely on the 1/2 story that gets put out.
Here’s a bit more.
The land used to be owned by absentee owners, probably Turkish, I’d have to look. From 1860 to probably 1950s, various groups bought the land from the owners to give to Jewish people/group/state — the Jewish Land Fund, the Rothschilds, whomever. This land was variously sold or given by the new owners by bequest to what is now the State of Israel.
Much of the land in the Judea (where this land is) and Gaza that is claimed by Arabs, is in fact, this land that was bought and sold in this manner.
To avoid outcries, Israel has generally not exercised dominion over any land that local Arabs (who were tenant farmers who now refuse to pay rent and claim their rented land as their own) or land that there is no particular use for.
Well, this was about 1,000 acres of such land legally owned by the State of Israel. There was no filed claim of private ownership by ANYONE to the contrary. And no tenant farmer was around to claim ownership. It’s empty scrub land.
So Israel exercised its legal right to its land – land that was bought and paid for and upon which no one was squatting — and is permitting a subdivision to be built in Judea.
Despite the fact they aren’t using the land, the more-or-less local Arabs don’t like Jews owing land and claim the land is “theirs” despite having no position in the chain-of-title from the Turkish/Ottoman sellers to the State of Israel on the sound theory that Jews are bad and can’t have land that Mohammed conquered.
The UN and everyone will agree with the Arabs on the equally sound legal basis that it is better to be unjustifiably outraged at Jews than telling the Arabs the truth because Arabs will run around London and Paris burning stuff and flipping cars unless you agree with them.
[/quote]
In 1860 one could still buy slaves in America. Painting colonial sales as in any way legitimate is simply tragic and shows the silliness of the Israeli argument. [/quote]
What the hell does buying slaves have to do with anything? Any land purchase in the late 19th Century or the first half of the 20th is invalid because it’s a “colonial sale?”
[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:
And non white people are still constantly being shot up and deported simply because of the colour of their skin.
[/quote]
Are you trying to get a rise out of people? What the fuck are you talking about? People are “shot up” and “deported” because of “the colour of their skin?” Pretend I’m from Mars. What in fuck’s name are you talking about? Explain. Give examples.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:
And non white people are still constantly being shot up and deported simply because of the colour of their skin.
[/quote]
Are you trying to get a rise out of people? What the fuck are you talking about? People are “shot up” and “deported” because of “the colour of their skin?” Pretend I’m from Mars. What in fuck’s name are you talking about? Explain. Give examples.[/quote]
I think he means this.