BTW, someone on here was once called an anti-Semite because he said someone was Jewish.
Well I suppose if the person truthfully says so.
This actually shows what a joke this climate is. Maybe not even ten years ago did people have to constantly watch their p’s and q’s.
It’s weird to me to have supposedly conservative people arguing for a big government solution to a purely business decision.
If you didn’t see elsewhere I’ve proposed territorial breakup, which I know is near impossible any time soon. I’m not into big government or conservatism.
Yes. Because those decorations belong to Hobby Lobby. They should also have the right to refuse sales to people named Bob, Tom, Bill, Sue, etc.
The liberal media does obviously, because to them everthing is racist
Those that hold society’s ever changing what makes me mad and hurts my feelings today group apparently.
Of course you can as a consumer, but what about an employee? And why does a business get to take a stand while standing on taxpayer dollars?
This goes far beyond just not doing business with a business you don’t like or one where you are against their views.
Don’t you dare refuse to bake a cake though.
Where did you get supposedly conservative from?
Wait, what is the government solution being offered here? If anything the 1st amendment is an antigovernmental clause.
I didn’t realize calling out bullshit in society was all of a sudden big government.
The first amendment doesn’t apply at all. Saying the businesses take government money is a cop-out. It’s is the same as big government people applying the Commerce Clause to every conceivable situation. Should Hobby Lobby have to sell to Planned Parenthood just because they use the public water system? You are asking for a government solution to a private issue. It would take laws and force to not allow businesses to be discerning in the ideas they support.
For the record, I hate the cancel culture bullshit as much as anyone, but the answer is for the public to get some fucking sense and a spine, not for the government to get involved. Nothing gets better with government involvement.
I never said it applied.
I said there is an argument for it and I think we will begin to see it very soon exactly because people won’t grow a spine and shut the fuck up about their whining and emotions on every single thing they don’t agree with and can’t stand to let people have a different view.
We already know the side that will get the government involved on this as the right is now using cancel culture too, fighting fire with fire. It is one big shit show.
As a business owner - I don’t care what your views are. Do you have money? Is it spendable? Cool, you are a valued customer.
The public sucks for the most part. That is where the people in government come from after all.
I agree, but we have a large swath of the country that holds the exact opposite view.
As we go back and forth, and back and forth…
I know, “He who is convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.”
Is it a bad thing if I as a consumer choose to not spend my money at stores who have views I find abhorrent?
No, and I never have said as such.
Spend your money as you see fit.
I do.
Is that not cancel culture?
Choosing to not spend your money (and all the ways you can be monetized) at businesses you feel have abhorrent views, and encouraging others to do the same?
Offended by Chappelle? Cancel Netflix service, and encourage others to boycott his shows.
Don’t like kneeling for the flag? Create enough public outcry to have a ball player blacklisted.
Etc, etc, etc.
Should that Colorado baker be forced to make gay wedding cakes or trans surgery celebration cakes? Should a liberal baker be forced to bake an NRA cake?
Who said the Young Turks had substance?
This does have some truth to it but is tempered by the amount of propaganda they’re exposed to.