Um… Who gives a fuck about which “racial majority” has the most people in the future?
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It’s not so much race as culture. The third world is not my culture - not my people.
It’s not by “chance” that white Europeans are what they are. If the third world was like us then Africa would be like Europe. Africa is not like Europe.
Not really. My two kids will be paying to support Shantelle’s nine kids and their five baby daddies. In no time at all we literally won’t exist. See Rhodesia for how that plays out.
You can keep your culture diversity and your green toys. I’m not buying any.
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Third, the statistic you cite is for the United States… I would submit for your consideration that our “population issues” are more in India, China, Africa, etc… Not saying that we don’t have an IMMIGRATION problem here with an undocumented Hispanic population sucking up resources while not contributing, but that issue pales in comparison to the birth rate in India from a GLOBAL perspective…[/quote]
India, China, Africa et al are not my people either. There is no global community. International relations is an anarchic, lawless environment and long may it remain so. I thought you atheists all believed in Darwinism and survival of the fittest?
I’m not a racial supremacist I’m a cultural supremacist. Who are my people? Certainly not the global community. My people used to share a language, borders and culture. They were white Europeans. They invented this thing we call “civilisation.” When they go civilisation goes with them.
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My people used to share a language, borders and culture. They were white Europeans. They invented this thing we call “civilisation.” When they go civilisation goes with them.
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LOL
that’s right. The ‘inventors’ of civilisation were the ancestors of those you’d call terrorists.
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My people used to share a language, borders and culture. They were white Europeans. They invented this thing we call “civilisation.” When they go civilisation goes with them.
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that’s right. The ‘inventors’ of civilisation were the ancestors of those you’d call terrorists.
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That’s right - Sumer > Babylonia > Kemet > Greece > Rome > Byzantium > Europe
I know where my culture comes from pal. That merely highlights my contention that it’s not about race but culture.
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My people used to share a language, borders and culture. They were white Europeans. They invented this thing we call “civilisation.” When they go civilisation goes with them.
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that’s right. The ‘inventors’ of civilisation were the ancestors of those you’d call terrorists.
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That’s right - Sumer > Babylonia > Kemet > Greece > Rome > Byzantium > Europe
I know where my culture comes from pal. That merely highlights my contention that it’s not about race but culture.
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The lineage you just posted (if we agree on it, which we don’t) clearly shows that the tradition of civilisation can pass from one ethnic group to another; this means that the downfall of the ‘White Man’ doesn’t mean the end of civilisation. This isn’t about culture and you know it; it’s just oh so much easier to call yourself a cultural supremacist than a racial one.
The lineage you just posted (if we agree on it, which we don’t)
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That is the lineage for the most part but it’s more complex. Europe also inherited Abrahamic monotheism and morality and the Arabs discovered Greek and Roman culture in the libraries of Alexandria, Damascus and Byzantium. The Italian city states also preserved Greek and Roman culture.
Absolutely. And genetics is largely unrelated. It depends on the nature of the two cultures. Did Rome absorb Greek culture when they smothered the Greeks? Yes. Did Goths absorb Roman culture when they smothered the Romans? No. Will third worlders absorb European culture as they smother us? No. Will the best of them rediscover it somewhere along the line? If they live long enough. But it’s got nothing to do with me.
At the very least it means an absence of civilisation for some time. You cannot just take a bunch of people from the third world, throw them into the first world and expect to get a functioning civil society let alone a high culture.
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This isn’t about culture and you know it; it’s just oh so much easier to call yourself a cultural supremacist than a racial one.[/quote]
Actually it is about culture. If third world immigrants absorbed our culture and assimilated I’d feel I had a stake in the society. As it is, I don’t have a country or people or culture so I can’t really pretend to be a nationalist. And I’m certainly not going to be globalist. As I said, I’m just a tired old nativist. My time came and went a long time ago. Keep your green toys and your diversity. Hope that works out for you.
Um… Who gives a fuck about which “racial majority” has the most people in the future?
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It’s not so much race as culture. The third world is not my culture - not my people.
[/quote]But their actions AFFECT you… [quote]
It’s not by “chance” that white Europeans are what they are. If the third world was like us then Africa would be like Europe. Africa is not like Europe.
[/quote]I’ve read Guns, Germs and Steel too - agree, there are MANY differences that led European colonialism[quote]
Not really. My two kids will be paying to support Shantelle’s nine kids and their five baby daddies. In no time at all we literally won’t exist. See Rhodesia for how that plays out.
[/quote]Well HERE’S a novel concept: if “Shantelle” had easy access to an abortion clinic, YOU WOULDN’T BE SUPPORTING HER FIVE BABIES… Let it sink in… Is it there yet? Also, her “five baby daddies” wouldn’t be locked up for not paying their child support, they could actually have a job without having 80% of their wages garnished by the state (which ultimately costs us MORE to incarcerate them, than if we just cut a check to the mother). In other words, your delusional resistance to realistic birth control/prevention WILL ultimately lead to the eventuality that you don’t want… Ironic? [quote]
You can keep your culture diversity and your green toys. I’m not buying any.
[/quote]I’m not “green”, buddy - I used to work in the oil industry and both my cars are V8’s… I do like me some diversity, though… Especially with women and food and music and culture. Sorry you don’t appreciate it, you don’t know what you’re missing. [quote]
Civilization is LEARNED - it is NOT inherent… Me thinks you are being a tad bit elitist here. Culture is LEARNED. And it can be UN LEARNED when it doesn’t work out… But you have to give the plebes enough rope to hang themselves with. Trust me, they WILL.
It all comes down to one basic premise: the MAJORITY of people are fucking STUPID. Putting them to use or putting them out of their misery won’t really matter in the long run. But feeding them when they can’t feed themselves and letting them breed indiscriminately WILL have disastrous effects on our planet and our ability to ultimately survive as a species.
EDIT: Sorry about the quotes. I looked back and tried to fix them, but I can’t seem to see where I fucked it up. I’ll try to re post.
They certainly do. But I can’t do anything about it. My culture and people are dying.
I wasn’t making reference to that.
You are missing the point. Black women don’t abort their babies. White women do. Black women have a different reproductive strategy. You know how some animals have a few young and take care of them? And others have lots of young and let them fend for themselves? Black women are producing lots of children because that’s their reproductive strategy. Abortion just leads to less white babies. But talking in generalisations about the different reproductive strategies of races and the utility of infanticide is creepy which is one of the reasons I’m not into population control or eugenics.
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Oh, I’m ALL about survival of the fittest. But I also know that I’m a minority in that belief and that my government (along with other Western governments) will use MY fucking tax dollars to feed these idiots. I would not have a single problem AT ALL with a Malthusian event that wiped a few billion people out. As a planet, it’s what we need. I’d do everything in MY considerable power to ensure the ME and MINE weren’t among the deceased. The ANSWER (that would be palatable to MOST people) is population control. But I also trust Mother Nature to find a remedy on her own - she’s don’t a pretty good job so far. All I can do is hope I have the ability to respond effectively when it happens. We can only do our best, right? [/quote]
The problem is it’s in their nature to destroy us and it’s in our nature to help them do it. I’m not signing on to a suicide pact with the diversity crowd.
We can’t stop them breeding. We can’t stop feeding them(it’s not in our nature) and we can’t reproduce ourselves. What does that leave?
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Mother Nature is a bitch and has proved herself time and time again… She’ll come up with something nice and decimating to our population (if we don’t foolishly do it to ourselves first).
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I agree completely. People consistently underestimate just how robust our planet is. They treat the earth like it’s some fucking delicate porcelain doll. The reality is that mother nature has an uncanny ability to regulate itself. If any one population gets too out of control, one way or another, it gets dealt with.[/quote]
You are missing the point. Black women don’t abort their babies. White women do. Black women have a different reproductive strategy. You know how some animals have a few young and take care of them? And others have lots of young and let them fend for themselves? Black women are producing lots of children because that’s their reproductive strategy. Abortion just leads to less white babies. But talking in generalisations about the different reproductive strategies of races and the utility of infanticide is creepy which is one of the reasons I’m not into population control or eugenics.
[/quote]I don’t necessarily agree with your position here. I feel that “educated people” tend to get abortions, while “poor ignorant people” tend to have lots of kids because they get a bigger welfare check. If you REMOVE THE INCENTIVE, you CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR. Couple that with better education and employment/career opportunities for EVERYONE (not just minorities), and we can have mothers from ALL races aborting their unborn kids! YAAAAY!!! LOL
(that was sarcasm)
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The problem is it’s in their nature to destroy us and it’s in our nature to help them do it. I’m not signing on to a suicide pact with the diversity crowd.
[/quote]I don’t view it necessarily as “destruction”, rather as “evolution”. EVERYTHING changes. If it DOESN’T evolve and change it will die… I actually disagree with you 100% on this position. The only constants in our universe are Paradox, Humor and CHANGE… Failure to embrace this will lead to … your destruction… But you seem to be taking a rather “victim/powerless” stance to this. I can almost feel your blind, self indulgent humility bleeding through my screen LOL “the brown people are breeding and everything my ancestors worked so VERY HARD for is FINISHED!!! <>” LOL You’re better than that, bro… [quote]
We can’t stop them breeding. We can’t stop feeding them(it’s not in our nature) and we can’t reproduce ourselves. What does that leave? [/quote]
We COULD stop them from breeding and we COULD stop feeding them, but we WON’T. We’ll see how the conversation looks in another 50 years when people actually have to start making these difficult choices. But for now, we’ll just kick the can down the road and hope the Ebola virus spreads and kills a few billion people off.
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I’m not a racial supremacist I’m a cultural supremacist. Who are my people? Certainly not the global community. My people used to share a language, borders and culture. They were white Europeans. They invented this thing we call “civilisation.” When they go civilisation goes with them.
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I’m not a racial supremacist I’m a cultural supremacist. Who are my people? Certainly not the global community. My people used to share a language, borders and culture. They were white Europeans. They invented this thing we call “civilisation.” When they go civilisation goes with them.
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