Tell us about intelligence analysis, B. Can those who practice it professionally be trusted?[/quote]
No. They said the chances of Ebola getting here were extremely low. Well it still got here.
Then they said they were prepared if it did get here, and protocols were in place. Well that was a lie too, proven by how the Dallas hospital treated the infected Liberian man. He even told them he came from Liberia and they still him go.
They screwed up again when they let that nurse fly to Cleveland, when she called the CDC and told them she had a fever.
Then they fucked up with that useless self-quarantine idea, sure didn’t stop the NYC doctor from going bowling and taking the subway while showing symptoms.
Then we have the self righteous nurse Laci Hickox, who decided to go grace the public with her presence BEFORE she cleared the 21 day observation period was over.
It seems we dodged Ebola due to sheer luck, not from human intelligence or even common sense. People keep fucking around with this Ebola, it will come back to bite us in the ass.
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None of the above policy is espoused by the threat assessment briefing I linked to, which you obviously haven’t bothered to read. The hype behind Ebola is not deserved, especially in regard to its possible use in a biological terrorist attack.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Gettin’ all ilky on us, eh Senor Blue Blood Bistro?
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My parents lost their home and my father his decidedly middle class job in the wake of the financial crisis. I funded my undergraduate degree through student loans and working as a dishwasher for 38 hours a week. But hey, character assassination is easier than actually addressing a short threat assessment briefing. [/quote]
Hey, YOU employed the classic class warfare snobby term, “ilk.”
Don’t quack like a duck if you don’t want folks thinking you’re a duck, Donald.
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Context is important. It was clearly used to refer to the collective hysteria and fear mongering of a group unconcerned with analytical rigor, and whose from the hip sound bites are amplified through the lens of political partisanship.
So, my uniformed, mostly disinterested observation is that ebola is nasty to get and ravages poor countries like like malaria and cholera does. Here, not so much.
[quote]Bismark wrote:
…and whose from the hip sound bites are amplified through the lens of political partisanship. [/quote]
Think about some of your past posts in other threads and let’s see if you have any problem summoning the genie of hypocrisy to assist you here.
You stepped in it, Bistro. Let’s see if you know how and why. Let’s see if your alleged erudition allows self analysis for consistency as well as circumspection.[/quote]
If you’re referring to my criticism of the foreign policies of various Republican administrations, that is a result of the general political orientation of PWI. How boring and predictable would a Jimmy Carter or Barack Obama bash thread be? Very. I attempt to base my criticisms (and defenses) of various foreign policies from an objective framework. By the way, don’t think I’ve forgotten about the Iraq thread. It’s still your move.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Gettin’ all ilky on us, eh Senor Blue Blood Bistro?
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My parents lost their home and my father his decidedly middle class job in the wake of the financial crisis. I funded my undergraduate degree through student loans and working as a dishwasher for 38 hours a week. But hey, character assassination is easier than actually addressing a short threat assessment briefing. [/quote]
Huh. I’m thankful of the “financial crisis”. Made a ton of money. Follow equities? You should have invested some of your loans… You would have paid for grad school. That’s what I did in the 90’s with Lucent and Yahoo… But what do I know.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Gettin’ all ilky on us, eh Senor Blue Blood Bistro?
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My parents lost their home and my father his decidedly middle class job in the wake of the financial crisis. I funded my undergraduate degree through student loans and working as a dishwasher for 38 hours a week. But hey, character assassination is easier than actually addressing a short threat assessment briefing. [/quote]
Huh. I’m thankful of the “financial crisis”. Made a ton of money. Follow equities? You should have invested some of your loans… You would have paid for grad school. That’s what I did in the 90’s with Lucent and Yahoo… But what do I know. [/quote]
It sure made life better for the vast majority, huh? Yeah, I don’t know why I didn’t commit fraud by using the federal loans I needed to pay my tuition to make speculous financial investments.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
You didn’t get it, Bistro, but that’s OK.
Where I was coming from was your seeming trust in intelligence analysis on this subject and your adamant condemnation of it prior to the Iraq War.
So it seems you’re nice and choosy about relying on government intelligence analysis. Why do you get to lean on it so heavily on ebola and yet dismiss it on Iraq?[/quote]
I never condemned the intelligence community prior to the Iraq war. I did, however, argue that the Bush administration heavily politicized the intelligence cycle in the lead up to the war.
Paul Pillar on intelligence and the Iraq war,
“In the wake of the Iraq war, it has become clear that official intelligence analysis was not relied on in making even the most significant national security decisions, that intelligence was misused publicly to justify decisions already made, that damaging ill will developed between policymakers and intelligence officers, and that the intelligence community’s own work was politicized. As the national intelligence officer responsible for the Middle East from 2000 to 2005, I witnessed all of these disturbing developments.”