Ebola

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

On the phone with my parents the other day, my mom told me that the little girls next door look like miniature adults these days as they wait for the elementary school bus. Leggings and oversized scarves (the stylish kind, not the warm-little-kid kind), etc.

What I wonder is if this is like a Jack thing where they will continue at this accelerated pace: business suits at 15, muumuus and old-lady jewelry at 24.[/quote]

Your theory, reminded me of this SNL skit. Mary Kate Olsen, “I have adopted the posture and gait of my 90-year-old grandmother.” She certainly seems to be into dressing like an AARP member. And all the hipsters seem to be knitting these days, which also supports your theory. Not related to Ebola or sexy Halloween costumes, but I heart Kristen Wigg’s Bjork skits. So, so funny.

Sorry, I don’t know how to embed here.
https://screen.yahoo.com/kristen-wiig-snl-skits/bein-quirky-zooey-deschanel-1-000000851.html

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
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This is not a public health situation, Push. It’s a public relations problem that requires the right spin.

An Ebola Czar is a lot like a kindergarten teacher, reassuring all the kids that they don’t need to panic 'cause the WHO is on the case. I mean, since when has the UN not just kicked booty on… whatever needed it’s booty kicked? Relax. And the CDC, also TOTALLY on the case. It’s all good, kids. And the President is doing a great job.

I have been wondering where all the panicked people are. Are people in NYC avoiding the subways, making runs on the grocery stores, and then staying home from work? Did people do that in Dallas? I don’t know, but I haven’t seen any panic going on here.

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I dunno… just quietly stocking up on ammo and non-perishable foods here. Things are quiet by me, which is good. We’re probably 6-8 weeks out from knowing whether the shituation in downtown Africa is totally out of control.

First ebola case in Mali: Mali rushes to contain Ebola after its first case | Global development | The Guardian

The patient traveled on multiple public buses through mali while showing late symptoms

[quote]Facepalm_Death wrote:
First ebola case in Mali: Mali rushes to contain Ebola after its first case | Global development | The Guardian

The patient traveled on multiple public buses through mali while showing late symptoms[/quote]

Two-years old too… traveled in from Guinea, another ebola hot-spot. Ever see those buses? Not the cleanest things in the world and often jam-packed. A perfect breeding ground, great.

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:

[quote]Facepalm_Death wrote:
First ebola case in Mali: Mali rushes to contain Ebola after its first case | Global development | The Guardian

The patient traveled on multiple public buses through mali while showing late symptoms[/quote]

Two-years old too… traveled in from Guinea, another ebola hot-spot. Ever see those buses? Not the cleanest things in the world and often jam-packed. A perfect breeding ground, great.[/quote]

Ha, no shit. Next time I’m in the 3rd world, I’ll think I’ll take a Rickshaw.

Is that selfish bitch nurse still on lockdown? What is the latest with her? She is a real bitch. You don’t hear the military griping about president Obola’s selective treatment.

That lady really rubs me the wrong way. Hell, maybe I’m being too hard on her.

Yeah, she should have gone into quarantine. Considering she’s a nurse, and works in healthcare, it would have been the appropriate example to set, same for that other doctor. Then when their quarantine time was up, there would have been big celebration, even though they were just fine. Plus, should you start to get sick, I’d rather have the pro’s nearby and ready to patch me up, or see me off to Valhalla.

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Is that selfish bitch nurse still on lockdown? What is the latest with her? She is a real bitch. You don’t hear the military griping about president Obola’s selective treatment.

That lady really rubs me the wrong way. Hell, maybe I’m being too hard on her. [/quote]

She reminds me of Sandra Fluke. A crazy, neurotic left-wing bitch.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Is that selfish bitch nurse still on lockdown? What is the latest with her? She is a real bitch. You don’t hear the military griping about president Obola’s selective treatment.

That lady really rubs me the wrong way. Hell, maybe I’m being too hard on her. [/quote]

She reminds me of Sandra Fluke. A crazy, neurotic left-wing bitch. [/quote]

She finished 2nd in the primary for state senate, she goes on to the general election against Ben Allen.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Is that selfish bitch nurse still on lockdown? What is the latest with her? She is a real bitch. You don’t hear the military griping about president Obola’s selective treatment.

That lady really rubs me the wrong way. Hell, maybe I’m being too hard on her. [/quote]

She reminds me of Sandra Fluke. A crazy, neurotic left-wing bitch. [/quote]

She finished 2nd in the primary for state senate, she goes on to the general election against Ben Allen.
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Funny how she can’t afford birth control yet she used a hundred grand of her own money to finance her political campaign.

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Considering she’s a nurse, and works in healthcare, it would have been the appropriate example to set[/quote]
Herein lies the key.

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Considering she’s a nurse, and works in healthcare, it would have been the appropriate example to set[/quote]
Herein lies the key.[/quote]

Agree.

Doctors Without Borders recommends people returning from service in West Africa not go back to work for 21 days. That says something.

BTW, a CBS poll showed 80% of American’s support a quarantine, even if it’s people self quarantined at home. So, if you feel like our Federal government is out of touch with your common sense reasoning on this, join the club. A sense of courtesy and concern for others seems reasonable.

The feds could support Ebola relief efforts by paying health care worker’s salaries for three weeks while they stay home and take an all expense paid vacation, as a thank you for your heroic service type of deal.

I wouldn’t wish Ebola on anyone, but it would be just a little poetic if that nurse and her civil rights lawyer came down with it.

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Considering she’s a nurse, and works in healthcare, it would have been the appropriate example to set[/quote]
Herein lies the key.[/quote]

Agree.

Doctors Without Borders recommends people returning from service in West Africa not go back to work for 21 days. That says something.

BTW, a CBS poll showed 80% of American’s support a quarantine, even if it’s people self quarantined at home. So, if you feel like our Federal government is out of touch with your common sense reasoning on this, join the club. A sense of courtesy and concern for others seems reasonable.

The feds could support Ebola relief efforts by paying health care worker’s salaries for three weeks while they stay home and take an all expense paid vacation, as a thank you for your heroic service type of deal.

I wouldn’t wish Ebola on anyone, but it would be just a little poetic if that nurse and her civil rights lawyer came down with it.
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The nurse’s roommate in Africa contracted Ebola, it would not be such a farfetched idea.

I had to laugh the other day when I was out grocery shopping. I’m in the frozen food aisle, I noticed this lady ahead of me, she was opening the food case doors with a wadded up piece of kleenex. Obviously this was a last-second thought. They do have these wipes at the door when you walk in, to wipe the handle of the shopping carts.

[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
I had to laugh the other day when I was out grocery shopping. I’m in the frozen food aisle, I noticed this lady ahead of me, she was opening the food case doors with a wadded up piece of kleenex. Obviously this was a last-second thought. They do have these wipes at the door when you walk in, to wipe the handle of the shopping carts.[/quote]

I do tend to wash my hands a lot, especially this time of year. And I wipe down equipment and the gym before and after I use it which might make me a look a little bit Howard Hughes there but whatever. :slight_smile:

Hey Beachguy, you mentioned stocking up a bit on nonperishable food and ammo. Some basic preparedness, if it’s for Hurricane Sandy, the big CA quake, civil unrest, is just good sense IMO. Having a few supplies is very cheap insurance. Truly, if we had some kind of all out epidemic, maybe not Ebola but perhaps an act of biological terrorism, you might want to be able to stay in your home for a few weeks, or even months. Of course, if things were really bad, I’d feel a lot safer at my parent’s home in NM or some other remote location where you could really go all Tremors Reba McEntire and Michael Gross survivalist on it if you wanted to. Living in the middle of a big urban area is not where I’d want to be if things went full zombie apocalypse. It is interesting to think about.

I experienced hurricane Sandy, we were more fortunate than others with losing power for only a few hours. I’ve been buying up extras for a while, non-perishables mostly and having extra propane as well. I have to sustain 4 people for a while, figuring on 4 months right now. And food for the cat as well. Ammo never goes bad and I’ve bought a new shotgun last week. I’m not as well prepared as many, but its a start.

I do have a couple of bug-out places to go, but I’d rather shelter in place and defend the homestead right now.

So I keep hearing from WHO, Red Cross, rather counterintuitively, how bans on travel won’t reduce the ebola outbreak.
Can’t seem to find any other information, other than an article and the statements.
Anyone understand or know more about this rationale?

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
So I keep hearing from WHO, Red Cross, rather counterintuitively, how bans on travel won’t reduce the ebola outbreak.
Can’t seem to find any other information, other than an article and the statements.
Anyone understand or know more about this rationale?[/quote]

Not sure about exactly what sort of “not reducing the outbreak” they are talking about but basically it’s not going to do shit for Africa. The disease is still spreading extremely rapidly there. The only way we kill the chance of having more ebola cases in the US is to kill the outbreak. And that means lots of dedicated work and money.

Also we don’t have an outbreak here in the States. We had 3 cases.

I should have been more specific, here’s some articles

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/16/Obama-Ebola-Travel-Ban-Won-t-Keep-Americans-Safe

I heard somewhere that the current ebola hotspots aren’t necessarily where international airports are, and that the ban may result in people simply leaving from other non-travel banned locations, thereby circumventing the ban.

Also, somehow having a travel ban is in violation of some “international law”

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
I should have been more specific, here’s some articles

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/16/Obama-Ebola-Travel-Ban-Won-t-Keep-Americans-Safe

I heard somewhere that the current ebola hotspots aren’t necessarily where international airports are, and that the ban may result in people simply leaving from other non-travel banned locations, thereby circumventing the ban.

Also, somehow having a travel ban is in violation of some “international law”

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That’s more or less the thinking. The best way to get on top of it is getting people at risk to be actively monitored and being willing to report their symptoms should they arise. The worst thing would be for people who have been at risk to lie, circumvent travel bans and then be unwilling to come forward while infectious for fear of repercussions. Unnecessary quarantines and travels bans by that reasoning only makes things harder to control.

Unfortunately the fear mongering has already gotten to a level where people might hide their symptoms or their travel history without a ban.