[quote]John S. wrote:
Sifu wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
MrRezister wrote:
Loose Tool wrote:
This is the core of the argument, and the part that I find most confounding. It amazes me that the United States is in the minority in believing that the right of self defense extends not just to the strong, but everyone, including the oppressed, weak, sick and old.
That’s gun control in a nutshell: the idea that your 135-lb. wife has the right to fistfight with her 250-lb. attacker. It must really suck to walk the streets in Britain if you’re not big and strong…
The majority of street violence in the UK is between 18-24 men. Your 135lb woman example is fear mongering, and what happens if the 250lb attacker has a legally bought firearm and a criminal mentality where has already crossed the line and is totally happy with attacking someone. The 135lb woman is still at a total disadvantage but now she risks being shot into the bargain.
Bollox! Britain is very dangerous for women. My mother has been assaulted several times on the street, my 85 year old aunt got a beat down last year and my grandmother was beat up in her own home.
Your rationalizations are absolute bullshit.
Bet that wouldn’t have happened if they had a gun on hand.[/quote]
Part of the point that I was trying to make is that random violence in Britain is quite common. But many Brits try to put up this front that because the number of people who get shot is low that Britain is somehow safe.
What you do see in Britain is other types of violence. Two of Britain’s most popular national past times are Glassing and Happy Slapping.
Glassing which is very common involves breaking a bottle or a glass and then repeatedly jamming the jagged glass into someones face so they are permanently disfigured. The provocation for such a vicious attack can be merely bumping into someone in a crowded pub. In America glassing is not as common because people know better.
Then there is the British sport known as happy slapping. What this involves is a group of people attacking someone and beating them to the ground. Then they take turns kicking their victims head like it’s a soccer ball. A lot of people have died from this.
One was a family man named Gary Newlove, he confronted a group of teenagers who vandalized his car so his family had to helplessly watch him kicked to death in their driveway. In America housewives can defend their family which the British think is terrible.
The sentences the killers got were a joke. The leader of the attack got 17 years and is appealing because it exceeds the sentencing guidelines.
One of the gang who kicked father-of-three Garry Newlove to death is considering an appeal against his conviction and his 17 year jail sentence, his solicitor has said.
Adam Swellings, 19, from Crewe, was jailed for life with a recommendation he serve a minimum of 17 years, for a killing that sparked outrage and a national debate about Britain?s yob culture.
Patrick Heald, Swellings’ solicitor, said however that the term had gone beyond parliament’s recommended tariff of 15 years for similar crimes.
The British have made a mess of their own country but stubbornly refuse to admit it. Then we get British twats like Cockney Blue who want to spread British stupidity to other countries. Then they wonder why we get annoyed at their bullshit.
