Donald Trump and Allen West, 2012?

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
“Certainly go down as the worst president in the history of the United States.”

I disagree with a lot of what Obama has done, but in order to make such a capricious statement you need to be a real dumbass. Though I’m sure Trump couldn’t name our worst presidents and the blunders that got them on the list.[/quote]

Trump is a blowhard media whore. But, with that said he is no dummy. In fact, my bet is that most billionaires are not stupid. Never underestimate Trump’s intelligence. While he WILL NOT run for President he gets plenty of media attention by saying he might. This of course draws viewers to his TV show and to all of his other branded products.

As for Obama, he is most certainly one of the worst modern day Presidents. He’s beaten Jimmy Carter but has a ways to go to top LBJ. But I do have faith that if given a second term he will be considered the worst President.

Liberals must be foaming at the mouth over all of the campaign promises that Obama broke.

1-Still in Iran and Afghanistan (in fact raised the troop levels)

2-Extended the Bush tax cuts that liberals love to say favor the rich. Even though everyone got the same 5% cut across the board.

3-Plans on drilling off shore.

4-Botched Libya

5-Kisses up and bows to our enemies

6-Encourages class warfare.

I could go on, there’s plenty to hate about Obama’s policy’s on both sides of the political spectrum.

Anyway, no Trump will not run but look at all the fun we are having? Final point, he’s reinvigorated the fact that Obama cannot prove he was born in the US. I do love that one. You’d think that it would be easy to dispel these rumors if they were not true.

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He may not be a dummy but he’s no genius. It doesn’t take much intelligence to inherit a fortune though it does take some foresight to not lose everything.

I’m pretty he sure he lost big time in many of his real estate ventures over the last decade. He didn’t see it coming.

I cannot believe the American public would swallow his brand of buffoonery…oh wait…nevermind.

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I don’t trust Donald Trump’s intentions. I thought he was a stong supporter of Bill Clinton. I wonder if he went after Obama to try to open the door for HC, and then he runs as a third partier to knock off the republicans.

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[quote]mertdawg wrote:
I don’t trust Donald Trump’s intentions. I thought he was a stong supporter of Bill Clinton. I wonder if he went after Obama to try to open the door for HC, and then he runs as a third partier to knock off the republicans.[/quote]

Trump is not running for anything. He will never give a financial disclosure of his net worth as he not worth nearly what he pretends to be.

Trust me on this one boys.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
Trump has been on the Obama attack path since bringing up the ridiculous notion that he may run for President. Now he’s dropped the “F Bomb” in his most recent speech. And while it doesn’t bother me in the slightest (people drop the F bomb no big deal) I do wonder how main stream America will look at it. Granted it doesn’t make him look Presidential, but after all he’s never been a serious contender and will NEVER actually run for President. At least not to the point where he must disclose his financial net worth.

Thoughts on Trump, the F bomb and whether you think he’s running. (He isn’t, oh yeah I said that)

I agree with you. Also, in light of the fact that Trump has filed for bankrupcy 5 times and no one knows his net worth I have no reason to believe in his business savy. However, we do live in VERY strange times and I wouldn’t even discount Jerry Seinfeld as a Presidential candidate…well perhaps I would but you get the idea.

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[quote]mertdawg wrote:
I don’t trust Donald Trump’s intentions. I thought he was a stong supporter of Bill Clinton. I wonder if he went after Obama to try to open the door for HC, and then he runs as a third partier to knock off the republicans.[/quote]

One word comes to , mind oh well two, Fucking Robber Barron :slight_smile:

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Trump is the best chance the Republicans have , right now[/quote]

Hardly. If a Republican gets elected it’ll be Romney. He’ll probably try to cut spending/pay off the debt then get the boot in 2016 for raising taxes and cutting spending. Call me a sceptic if you like.

I’m also sceptical as to whether he’d even do this as he is hardly a conviction politician and comes across as apolitical due to his failure to reveal his persuasions.

He’d also be completely out of his depth regarding foreign policy and prosecution of the war effort.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Trump is the best chance the Republicans have , right now[/quote]

Hardly. If a Republican gets elected it’ll be Romney. He’ll probably try to cut spending/pay off the debt then get the boot in 2016 for raising taxes and cutting spending. Call me a sceptic if you like.

I’m also sceptical as to whether he’d even do this as he is hardly a conviction politician and comes across as apolitical due to his failure to reveal his persuasions.

He’d also be completely out of his depth regarding foreign policy and prosecution of the war effort.[/quote]

Which is probably why Petreaus got moved recently, to keep him from hooking up as a legitimizing FP VP for most likely Romney.

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I am not a Democrat , I am an Independent , I am predicting the Republicans are going to get a BIG SPANKING :slight_smile:

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am not a Democrat , I am an Independent , I am predicting the Republicans are going to get a BIG SPANKING :)[/quote]

the problem for Republicans with the presidency as opposed to house elections is that the president has to best represent the views of ALL republicans, and that inevitably pisses off MANY republicans. House members can fine tune their message.

Ideological Republicans—Democrates Pragmatic

Nevertheless, I can’t imagine a true progressive president getting elected twice. The republicans’ problem is getting the right candidate.

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[quote]mertdawg wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am not a Democrat , I am an Independent , I am predicting the Republicans are going to get a BIG SPANKING :)[/quote]

the problem for Republicans with the presidency as opposed to house elections is that the president has to best represent the views of ALL republicans, and that inevitably pisses off MANY republicans. House members can fine tune their message.

Ideological Republicans—Democrates Pragmatic

Nevertheless, I can’t imagine a true progressive president getting elected twice. The republicans’ problem is getting the right candidate.[/quote]

If you are talking Obama being progressive , I have to totally disagree, He is smack dab middle of the road

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]mertdawg wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am not a Democrat , I am an Independent , I am predicting the Republicans are going to get a BIG SPANKING :)[/quote]

the problem for Republicans with the presidency as opposed to house elections is that the president has to best represent the views of ALL republicans, and that inevitably pisses off MANY republicans. House members can fine tune their message.

Ideological Republicans—Democrates Pragmatic

Nevertheless, I can’t imagine a true progressive president getting elected twice. The republicans’ problem is getting the right candidate.[/quote]

If you are talking Obama being progressive , I have to totally disagree, He is smack dab middle of the road
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I believe that pisses a lot of progressives off as well

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]mertdawg wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am not a Democrat , I am an Independent , I am predicting the Republicans are going to get a BIG SPANKING :)[/quote]

the problem for Republicans with the presidency as opposed to house elections is that the president has to best represent the views of ALL republicans, and that inevitably pisses off MANY republicans. House members can fine tune their message.

Ideological Republicans—Democrates Pragmatic

Nevertheless, I can’t imagine a true progressive president getting elected twice. The republicans’ problem is getting the right candidate.[/quote]

If you are talking Obama being progressive , I have to totally disagree, He is smack dab middle of the road
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OK Perceived progressive. He has regularly said that the federal health care legislation is a path to a single payer system, and that is progressive in the eyes of most.

I was an independent, not registered as republican from about '90 until the 2010 election.

My question about Obama is whether he believes a) that government spending can really stimulate the economy, or b) he wants economic turmoil to make more people dependent on government. I think he probably figures that either way it will help him win elections.

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I do not see much difference between Obama and Romney, the only clear difference will be Romney will come in crusading for the rights of Zygotes and possibly with the poor are lazy agenda

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]mertdawg wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am not a Democrat , I am an Independent , I am predicting the Republicans are going to get a BIG SPANKING :)[/quote]

the problem for Republicans with the presidency as opposed to house elections is that the president has to best represent the views of ALL republicans, and that inevitably pisses off MANY republicans. House members can fine tune their message.

Ideological Republicans—Democrates Pragmatic

Nevertheless, I can’t imagine a true progressive president getting elected twice. The republicans’ problem is getting the right candidate.[/quote]

If you are talking Obama being progressive , I have to totally disagree, He is smack dab middle of the road
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I believe that pisses a lot of progressives off as well[/quote]

Yea, I guess he’s become a typical white-washed (no pun intended) politician.

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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
“Certainly go down as the worst president in the history of the United States.”

I disagree with a lot of what Obama has done, but in order to make such a capricious statement you need to be a real dumbass. Though I’m sure Trump couldn’t name our worst presidents and the blunders that got them on the list.[/quote]

Trump is a blowhard media whore. But, with that said he is no dummy. In fact, my bet is that most billionaires are not stupid. Never underestimate Trump’s intelligence. While he WILL NOT run for President he gets plenty of media attention by saying he might. This of course draws viewers to his TV show and to all of his other branded products.

As for Obama, he is most certainly one of the worst modern day Presidents. He’s beaten Jimmy Carter but has a ways to go to top LBJ. But I do have faith that if given a second term he will be considered the worst President.

Liberals must be foaming at the mouth over all of the campaign promises that Obama broke.

1-Still in Iran and Afghanistan (in fact raised the troop levels)

2-Extended the Bush tax cuts that liberals love to say favor the rich. Even though everyone got the same 5% cut across the board.

3-Plans on drilling off shore.

4-Botched Libya

5-Kisses up and bows to our enemies

6-Encourages class warfare.

I could go on, there’s plenty to hate about Obama’s policy’s on both sides of the political spectrum.

Anyway, no Trump will not run but look at all the fun we are having? Final point, he’s reinvigorated the fact that Obama cannot prove he was born in the US. I do love that one. You’d think that it would be easy to dispel these rumors if they were not true.

[/quote]
He may not be a dummy but he’s no genius. It doesn’t take much intelligence to inherit a fortune though it does take some foresight to not lose everything.

I’m pretty he sure he lost big time in many of his real estate ventures over the last decade. He didn’t see it coming.

I cannot believe the American public would swallow his brand of buffoonery…oh wait…nevermind.[/quote]

Well I think he inherit around 20 million, certainly a lot of money. But he is worth many more times that now (but not as much as he pretends to be worth). Anyway, he is a blowhard but what he’s doing to Obama is causing me for the first time in my life to actually like him.