Does HIV Cause AIDS?

[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
You guys are slamming headhunter because he is pushing an unpopular non-PC version of the truth, not because he is wrong. You all follow the crowd so damn much you can’t even think for yourselves.

Maybe there is HIV that causes AIDS and maybe not. But what seems very clear is that the homosexual community, with willing physicians, hyped the chance of getting HIV to the non-gay and non-IV drug using population much more than was scientifically supported.

So with the willing (left) media they overblew this issue on purpose to get funding for AIDS research. They tried to scare the general population making them believe they were at-risk for AIDS in order to get money for their special interest issue. I say “special interest” because millions more people die of heart disease, cancer, and diabetes each year than AIDS. So they lied to get money that would have rightfully gone to diseases that affect a much larger population.

So whether or not HIV is real and causes AIDS is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the AIDS “crisis” was misrepresented from day one. So if the risk was misrepresented it is not inconceivable that the disease itself was misrepresented as well.

But nooo, you guys will continue to go on believing what the media tells you like good little drones.

You sound like a world-class idiot, and are trying to confuse the issue by bringing up a somewhat related, secondary point about the politicization of the disease. Arguing that there is a drug company conspiracy and HIV does not cause AIDS is basically intellectually and morally equivalent to denying the Holocaust: either you’re really stupid/easily persuaded or you allow your hatred for a group of people (gays or Jews) to overpower your reasoning.

Whether straight people are as likely to catch AIDS as gays is a very different issue (and again, look at Africa).

You need to learn to read first, then we can discuss the issue.

I never stated anything about drug companies and conspiracy. My point is that the media and many health care practitioners deliberately exaggerated the chance of a non-gay, non-IV drug using populations’ chances of getting HIV. This is a documented FACT as the info coming out in the media was conflicting with the CDC statistical and medical findings.

You said “Maybe there is HIV that causes AIDS and maybe not.” Then you stuck up for the loon squad by writing “You guys are slamming headhunter because he is pushing an unpopular non-PC version of the truth, not because he is wrong.”

Your somewhat legitimate point about HIV not being as bad for heterosexual men as previously thought is intertwined with the above idiocy.[/quote]

No duffus, the point is that YOU have no scientific proof about HIV or AIDS. He has scientists that disagree with your scientists. So what! So the point is that since neither of you are medical researchers in the area of HIV, neither of you really know anything about it. You are just relying on main-stream media sources for what to believe and he is not. That doesn’t make you more correct than him, or him more than you.

So get over yourself as you really don’t have the foggiest idea of what you are talking abut.

Somebody amongst you doubters had better go have a chat with the CDC then…

CDC wants HIV tests for everyone
http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/conditions/05/09/hiv.testing.ap/index.html?section=cnn_health
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Testing for the AIDS virus could become part of routine physical exams for adults and teens if doctors follow new U.S. guidelines expected to be issued by this summer.

Federal health officials say they would like HIV testing to be as common as a cholesterol check.

The guidelines for routine testing would apply to every American ages 13 to 64, according to the proposed plan by the U.S. Centers for Disease control and Prevention.

One-quarter of the 1 million Americans with the AIDS virus don’t know they are infected, and that group is most responsible for HIV’s spread, CDC officials said.

“We need to expand access to HIV testing dramatically by making it a routine part of medical care,” said the agency’s Dr. Kevin Fenton.

CDC officials presented the plans at a scientific conference in February. Last week, they said the guidelines should be released in June or July.
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Just an update on recent research findings:

Hunt for origin of HIV pandemic ends at chimpanzee colony in Cameroon

HIV origin ‘found in wild chimps’
The origin of HIV has been found in wild chimpanzees living in southern Cameroon, researchers report.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5012268.stm

Makkun