This is a very fair and reasonable view/answer in my opinion, so would that mean you would suggest colleges and universities should expend energy to recruit “right leaning” people in say sociology departments, and more “left leaning” people in STEM? (As the stats show the opposite tend to congregate in those departments.)
Or how about something like journalism, where your biases effect you more than most people are able to recognize, should editors be selected based on political & economic views?
DO religious (or lack there of) opinions matter here too?
Can you provide support for your assertion that STEM professors lean right? It seems they are less left leaning than social sciences, but that doesn’t really imply right leaning.
Only if there’s something about that segment that would lead someone to believe they have value add to that scenario. I’m nowhere near educated enough about things like college major demographics to know for sure.
Another stupidly loaded example. You now run an apple picking company. If your average employee height is 5foot7inch, you will probably see value add from “diversity” by hiring some 6foot1inch people. The same cannot by said of hiring some 5foot2inch people. Not all diversity is created equal.
This is where things get hairy imo and probably leads to the biggest snag with diversity in general. Quantifying diversity and assigning it a pos/neg value is VERY difficult. In this specific example, I’d say you cater to your market. If your market consists of 90% libs and 10% repubs, and they want to just read things they already agree with, it makes sense to hire a lefty, and vice versa. Conversely, if your goal/value add leads you to believe you NEED varying opinions, you’re better off hiring a righty, and vice versa.
This leads me to think I should quantify part of my previous post. Demographics don’t matter. Period. Religious/non religious. Male/female. Black/White. None of that “matters.” What does matter, is the varying viewpoints. It just so happens the most accurate way we currently have of gathering these varying viewpoints is via demographics. It feels like splitting hairs, but meh.
So to answer your question, religious opinions only matter in the sense that it could change said person’s viewpoint. ALSO, specifically in the context of the view you’re trying to evaluate. If you’ve got a Christian and a Muslim, but they’re both 6foot apple pickers, that layer of diversity is meaningless. If you have a Christian and a Muslim on a topic where the religion changes the viewpoint, it’s not meaningless anymore.
I just wanted to share this with those who may not of seen it. This seemed like the appropriate active thread to share it. It’s called ‘Racist Field Trip’ and the guy’s telling of the story is hysterical, at least I thought it was. Enjoy!
I know you are making these up as you go so I don’t want to be too critical, but in this scenario why would I want any diversity? Why not just hire all tall apple pickers? Wouldn’t it behoove me to insist on a lack of diversity in that regard?
On the apple picking side, maybe you don’t. But I’d put it akin to a guy hiring a bouncer for his bar. You’re not seeing people with signs screaming about diversity because we’re not hiring 19 yr old petite women to be the bouncer. Society (generally) is pretty good about accepting that not all “diversity” is good when the goal is a very specific PHYSICAL attribute.
If you were to move that example to the business side of things, or the processing side of things, etc you may find that diversity becomes valuable again.
^This. It was a loaded example for a reason. Plenty of jobs are going to require physical traits. Common sense dictates we don’t try to shove a square peg into a round hole.
You’d be surprised. A lot of apple orchards have overall fairly short trees with essentially all of the apples reachable from the ground for a tall person. This is achieved by using dwarf tree varieties and training and pruning the tree to grow in a short pattern.
I tried that at a game the other day but they made me get out of the women’s line at the metal detectors. I felt sort of bummed at the blatant discrimination against middle aged greying dudes
Last time I flew had my coworker see the sign that women could request a female officer for pat down. He quipped to the lady running the x-ray “can a guy request a female agent?”
She took a marker and added a tally mark on a piece of paper on the divider behind her (there were already 35 marks).
“What’s that?” He asks.
“Perv count” she replies, “we get that joke 50 times a day.”
I was half joking. The serious half was a comment on the idea of reasonable accommodation. I would want a reliable hard working midget with a ladder instead of a giant lazy bastard.