Deca & Tren - What Is the Point?

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All valid points good sir.

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It does seem in Pharma that people are a bit more humble, and willing to admit what they don’t know, or willing to say it is bro science, but seems to work out.

TRT threads lately seem to turn into dick measuring contests a lot of the time.

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I guess my reaction to this thread came from a place of hoping I wouldn’t find more of the same in Pharma. Consider me a fellow refugee from #t-replacement.

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Precisely

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I’ve taken a shift load of both compounds. I’ve been on tren are either deca right now both for over a year. My liver and kidneys are perfect my dick hasn’t skipped a beat. My ldl cholesterol is high as fuck and my red blood cells are slightly elevated. I think a lot of it’s genetic just like one person can smoke for 50 years and die of old age another dies of lung cancer from second hand smoke. And I’m about to start a argument but I’ve been watching my blood panels and taking juice for a long time I disagree on the toxicity of injectables especially the doom and gloom from tren. Now it’s not Vitamin c but shit some people act like its black tar heroin or something.

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Just because you can’t see any side effects on the outside/on blood work doesn’t mean you aren’t inducing damage.

Have you ever gotten an echocardiogram?

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No I haven’t but need to.

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Just my experience and own research but neurotoxicity seems to be the deca only or testosterone only with too much AI Or AAS that aromatize very little, so too lower estrogen is the issue.

The deca dick thing. i have found from moderste to higher T on its own. Use of an ai but not smashing e2 helps and vit B5 at 200mg once but maybe twice per day i find helps prolactin.
Deca dick worse i find when combining them at moderate doses and up. Again low dose ai and vitamin B6. Doing 250mg each of T and deca can be an issue…

Deca only cycle, say beginners cycle 250mg to 500mg per week but add low dose T ie 50 to 75mg per week which give you enough estrogen hopefully to protect neurons and reap the benefits of estrogen. Or can add dhea in a does that gives you good healthy estrogen. No deca dick issues?

So on the same page low dose i think of moderate TRT dose of 250mg, moderate for me starts at 500mg per week, high dosec1000mg plus.

Just my experience for what its worth
Cheers👍

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This sounds like a bad time.