If Talia was the only person to be born in the pit, why was Bane imprisoned there in the first place? I’d like to have known what crime he committed, or if indeed he was innocent when he was sent there (people seemed to have been imprisoned there at the discretion of Talia’s grandfather, until the LoS appropriated it for their own use)…
[quote]roybot wrote:
Here’s the comparison vid between the IMAX prologue Bane voice and the redubbed version:
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Thanks for sharing that; I didn’t realise they’d changed the voice so much.
[quote]Consul wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
Here’s the comparison vid between the IMAX prologue Bane voice and the redubbed version:
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Thanks for sharing that; I didn’t realise they’d changed the voice so much.[/quote]
The voice is probably why they never officially released the prologue to promote the movie like they did with Joker’s bank heist.
I broke my back once in a climbing accident, i could barely move my any part of my body and it was mostly just searing pain (Still have nightmares about it), i trained myself fit and functional again in 2-4 months(was pretty much active month 3, and powerful again at month 4). I trained myself back again with mostly calisthenics, i did not find his recovery strange at all.
I came back again as a strong rower and climber.
Me being 18 at the time might have helped with recovery too, but with enough will, an injury is just an injury.
Also gotta say that i always felt blessed about the fact that i did not need surgery
Bruce´s recovery is totally realistic in my opinion.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
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So what did you guys think of the ending? I enjoyed the movie but the ending really seemed too implausible for me to accept.[/quote]
I like the Robin part, but I’m with ya. While, it was good to know that he lives, and it makes you feel happy that Alfred didn’t lose him, it was just too much IMO. They could have just left it like, he died, but you’d be pretty sure he wasn’t dead.
I also thought it was dumb how with the bomb ticking down with a 90 secs to go him and Cat Woman talked and kissed, that may have been worse than the ending IMO
overall, awesome movie, not as good as the 2nd, but it did not disappoint
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
The first fight scene where Bane breaks batmans back…I thought it was a little week. Could have been done a bit better and the actual act of Bane breaking Batman’s back could have been done in a more iconic way. IMO[/quote]
_>
Did you really watch the movie?[/quote]
the fight was great, the backbreaking part itself was weakly shot
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Alright guys, I rewatched it again last night paying attention to EVERYTHING…and yea, Bruce Wayne is most certainly alive at the end. Nothing open-ended here. I was just too giddy opening night and missed some of the subtleties. [/quote]
What tipped you off? Him eating dinner at that cafe while alive?
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bwwhahaha
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I also thought it was dumb how with the bomb ticking down with a 90 secs to go him and Cat Woman talked and kissed, that may have been worse than the ending IMO[/quote]
dragonball z time, they had weeks for the bomb to asplode
another thing… would a billionaire really have a car loan or lease on a Lambo to get repoed? come on
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
another thing… would a billionaire really have a car loan or lease on a Lambo to get repoed? come on[/quote]
He was an ex-billionaire. He was sucking Wayne Enterprises’ military division dry and Talia worked it from the other end for several years. Daggett worked for her and he was trying to manouevre Wayne Enterprises into starting the clean energy project, which only Bruce Wayne himself could authorize.
By the end of the movie Bruce Wayne didn’t have a pot to piss in, but that’s how it was for a large portion of Batman Begins, and Bruce Wayne’s idea of putting a “little something away for a rainy day” is a lottery win for most.
The billionaire playboy image waa a cover from the start: the ‘real’ Bruce Wayne was seen in his LoS training. Drunk Bruce Wayne cavorting with models in a hotel lobby , then buying the hotel and ‘bratty’ Wayne teling his guests to GTFO to save them from a fiery death were LoS tactics. It was never about money.
I saw this again in IMAX and it was like a completely different movie. Fucking loved it the second time. All of the little things that bothered me the first time didn’t seem to matter the second.
I’m on board. I liked it better than BB but still not as much as TDK.
O/T: I am going to be Bane for Halloween.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
I saw this again in IMAX and it was like a completely different movie. Fucking loved it the second time. All of the little things that bothered me the first time didn’t seem to matter the second.
I’m on board. I liked it better than BB but still not as much as TDK.
O/T: I am going to be Bane for Halloween.[/quote]
Yeah, man. I saw it in IMAX after seeing it in a normal cinema, and it made quite a difference.
I’ve got a question for you all. I was reading on some website that it’s pretty much a certainty that Warner Brothers is going to reboot the Batman franchise once again, in conjunction with the planned Justice League film. I assume the Batman film(s) that will come out in the next couple years will be tied into the JL thing.
I really, really, really hope that WB doesn’t reboot Batman by giving us another origin story to start off with. I think it’s safe to say that anyone who knows who Batman is knows exactly how he came to be.
What do you guys think would be a good approach to a future Batman film or series of films that doesn’t address his origins? Personally, I’ve always felt that the Batman world, that is, the dark, corrupt one that’s been present in most of the comics since the mid 80’s, would make a really great setting for a neo-noir type of film. Imagine a film like Chinatown, except Jake Gittes is Batman and Noah Cross could be any number of classic Batman villains.
Obviously, the story/plot would have to be different, but something with that sort of feel would really work well. Batman is a detective when all is said and done, so I don’t see why a good old-fashioned, gritty, hardboiled detective story featuring him wouldn’t work. Something in the vein of Chinatown, LA Confidential, Bullitt, Cape Fear or Point Blank, starring Lee Marvin (a personal favorite). You know, something that’s much more plot-driven than character-driven. We all know about the whole Bruce Wayne/Batman dichotomy; now let’s really see the motherfucker do what he does best, which is outthink everyone and beat the shit out of everyone else.
I want to see shadows from a set of Venetian blinds cast across Batman’s cowl during a moment of helplessness.
I want to see a movie with all of Batman’s flaws on display, outmatched only by a devious leading lady and further complicated by an amoral villain and some sort of McGuffin-type object of desire.
Perhaps something with a lot of black and white and specific insertions of color, a la Sin City.
Would it kill them to use low camera-angle shots like certain parts of A Clockwork Orange, in order to emphasize the subjugated and the dominant?
Would it also kill them to hear some fucking Batman voice-over narration, complete with menacing growl?
And the only acknowledgement of the old 60’s TV show should be the occasional tilted camera-angle shot during scenes featuring the villain, also known as a Dutch camera angle.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I want to see shadows from a set of Venetian blinds cast across Batman’s cowl during a moment of helplessness.
I want to see a movie with all of Batman’s flaws on display, outmatched only by a devious leading lady and further complicated by an amoral villain and some sort of McGuffin-type object of desire.
Perhaps something with a lot of black and white and specific insertions of color, a la Sin City.
Would it kill them to use low camera-angle shots like certain parts of A Clockwork Orange, in order to emphasize the subjugated and the dominant?
Would it also kill them to hear some fucking Batman voice-over narration, complete with menacing growl?[/quote]
I’m fully on board with your idea. I love that style of film. I just don’t think any studio, especially one as big as WB, will take that kind of risk with a franchise that’s already proven to be incredibly profitable, even when the movies suck.
Should a reboot occur, I think it’s time for a new villain.
Something brand new.
I don’t need to see Poison Ivy or The Riddler or The Penguin again. It’s time to see someone drift away from the source material and find something/someone new to battle.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I’ve got a question for you all. I was reading on some website that it’s pretty much a certainty that Warner Brothers is going to reboot the Batman franchise once again, in conjunction with the planned Justice League film. I assume the Batman film(s) that will come out in the next couple years will be tied into the JL thing.
I really, really, really hope that WB doesn’t reboot Batman by giving us another origin story to start off with. I think it’s safe to say that anyone who knows who Batman is knows exactly how he came to be.
What do you guys think would be a good approach to a future Batman film or series of films that doesn’t address his origins? Personally, I’ve always felt that the Batman world, that is, the dark, corrupt one that’s been present in most of the comics since the mid 80’s, would make a really great setting for a neo-noir type of film. Imagine a film like Chinatown, except Jake Gittes is Batman and Noah Cross could be any number of classic Batman villains.
Obviously, the story/plot would have to be different, but something with that sort of feel would really work well. Batman is a detective when all is said and done, so I don’t see why a good old-fashioned, gritty, hardboiled detective story featuring him wouldn’t work. Something in the vein of Chinatown, LA Confidential, Bullitt, Cape Fear or Point Blank, starring Lee Marvin (a personal favorite). You know, something that’s much more plot-driven than character-driven. We all know about the whole Bruce Wayne/Batman dichotomy; now let’s really see the motherfucker do what he does best, which is outthink everyone and beat the shit out of everyone else.[/quote]
This is a phenomenal idea, but it would only appeal to the die-hards. The average movie goer wouldn’t shell out the dough to catch this in the theater. This might sound silly, but if they were to do it I think they could have Batman a little older and have Guy Pierce play him. Think he’d do well in a gritty, dystopian backdrop.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I’ve got a question for you all. I was reading on some website that it’s pretty much a certainty that Warner Brothers is going to reboot the Batman franchise once again, in conjunction with the planned Justice League film. I assume the Batman film(s) that will come out in the next couple years will be tied into the JL thing.
I really, really, really hope that WB doesn’t reboot Batman by giving us another origin story to start off with. I think it’s safe to say that anyone who knows who Batman is knows exactly how he came to be.[/quote]
The success (or failure) of Man of Steel will dictate how quickly they re-do Batman. MoS is a stand-alone movie, so they’d have to let that franchise run before moving ahead with team-up movies. Assuming MoS is a success, I’d say it’d be at least four years before we see a new Batman movie.
If MoS tanks, they may have cold feet about doing a ‘Justice League initiative’ and a Batman who shares a world with Superman, Flash, GL, Wonder Woman, etc. would have to eschew the gritty realism of Nolan in favor of something more fantastical.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I’ve got a question for you all. I was reading on some website that it’s pretty much a certainty that Warner Brothers is going to reboot the Batman franchise once again, in conjunction with the planned Justice League film. I assume the Batman film(s) that will come out in the next couple years will be tied into the JL thing.
I really, really, really hope that WB doesn’t reboot Batman by giving us another origin story to start off with. I think it’s safe to say that anyone who knows who Batman is knows exactly how he came to be.[/quote]
The success (or failure) of Man of Steel will dictate how quickly they re-do Batman. MoS is a stand-alone movie, so they’d have to let that franchise run before moving ahead with team-up movies. Assuming MoS is a success, I’d say it’d be at least four years before we see a new Batman movie.
If MoS tanks, they may have cold feet about doing a ‘Justice League initiative’ and a Batman who shares a world with Superman, Flash, GL, Wonder Woman, etc. would have to eschew the gritty realism of Nolan in favor of something more fantastical.[/quote]
The Justice League film, for my moviegoing dollar, should be set in a Nolan landscape.
His films are beautiful to look at, yet they’re earnest and set realisticly. And they’re PIMP. Hot cars, great clothes… I mean, I watched ‘Inception’ and thought “Damn I need to upgrade my wardrobe.”
Having the Justice league formed into one film would need Nolans’ influence or else it’ll come off too goofy.